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Old 10-04-2001, 04:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gas grade for gassers

Does everyone run mid-grade fuel as recommended or can you get away with min. grade? I have a Nissan PU that would run on half water I think. Are these really high compression engines that require the higher octane to prevent detonation?

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Re: Gas grade for gassers

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Been running plain old 87 octane for 35k. No problems even when towing. Mid-grade recommended? I never saw anything about that.
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Re: Gas grade for gassers

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> Does everyone run mid-grade fuel as recommended or can you get away with min. grade? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm with the other poster, I think it is the minimum grade (regular unleaded) of 87 octane that is reccomended, not the mid grade. Might want to recheck.. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

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Re: Gas grade for gassers

I think what's happening here is that octane ratings are different in different parts of the country. Here in Utah, mid grade is 87. So it sounds like I need to keep forkin over the extra cash.
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Re: Gas grade for gassers

Good point Solly, out here in Cali we have 87 (regular), 89 (mid-grade), and 92 (super). I think Ford recomends 87 for their gassers.

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Re: Gas grade for gassers

My owner's manual says to run 87 octane, which is Regular Unleaded here (which happens to be about $1.27/gallon where I fill up). Unleaded Plus is 89 octane and Premium Unleaded is 93.
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Re: Gas grade for gassers

87 octane for stock.

91 + octane for the chips. [img]images/icons/laugh.gif[/img]

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Re: Gas grade for gassers

I run 87 (regular) around town and 93 (premium) when towing. I believe that 87 is the minimum that you should use even at high altitudes.
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Re: Gas grade for gassers

Whatever is the cheapest. Simple. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: Gas grade for gassers

I run 87 all the time; no problems or knock to speak of. [img]images/icons/laugh.gif[/img]
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Re: Gas grade for gassers

If 87 is midgrade what the heck is your low grade?! My 460 don't like anything less than 92 very well.
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Re: Gas grade for gassers

I seem to recall 85 octane being typical for regular grade gas in the mountain states. The engine's octane requirement *can* be lower at higher elevations due to the lower atmospheric pressure. Modern engine computers will also advance the timing to compensate for the slower combustion process -- typically 1 degree of advance for every 1,000 ft gain in altitude (I used to have to do this manually!).

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Re: Gas grade for gassers

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Is your truck stock (no chip, etc)? If so, why do you run 93 when towing? The computer will adjust for poor fuel (knock), but it doesn't advance for "better" fuel.
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Re: Gas grade for gassers

Truck is 100% stock, but most definitely pulls better on 93 octane. Have tried 87 & 93 various times over the same route with the same results- higher octane leads to fewer downshifts and better acceleration with the trailer.

If the knock-sensor functions as you describe, then there must be something else coming into play.
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Re: Gas grade for gassers

Ford does require a minimum of 87 octane. Most of my driving is in elevations ranging from sea-level to ~2,500 ft, and I use 87 for driving around town and 89 for towing (much better performance, fewer OD-&gt;3rd downshifts, and a bit better fuel economy). Above 2,500 ft (i.e west Texas, NM, CO, etc.), I use 87 regardless of application.

My brother just uses 87 in his F250 SD CC V10 3.73, and he's happy with it.

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