I was looking for info on the newer Ford V-10 compared to my 99 with a Power Programer, Gear Vendors, 4.30 rear, auto 4x2 I'm presently at 17,000 GCVW when on the road and my 5th wheel is 12 ft. high. I can't even come close to what this guy says he's doing. Anyone else out there, with Ford V-10 towing experience, that would be willing to share your experience would be appreciated.
My 05 CC LB FX4 Lariat SRW T/S V10 has 4:10 gears and it is a towing champ. I pull an 06 Montana high profile Fiver that is 33 feet long and 13 feet high. I weighed my unit last year at a Govt scale and I was 20800 pounds combined weight.
Last year I pulled my rig 3000 miles up many 6% and a few 8% grades. I can get a speeding ticket up any 6 % and I can do 50MPH on 8% hills.
I never got passed by any diesels and having owned 3 PSDs ,I am here to tell you this gas V10 out performed my 95 and 2000 7.3s.
My 04 sick-oh had a lot of grunt when it was running but it would not embarass my V10 on a normal elevation pull. Way up high, I know the turbo out pulls a naturally aspirated engine but up to 3000 feet, diesels don't intimidate my V10.
True story, believe it or not. With 2600 pounds of pin weight, sitting on my LS 4.10s, dry pavement, at start up I got her rolling and mashed her to the metal, I could not believe it, shaking and jumping, and tires screaching, she can spin the tires with that load on her. Incredible! My 3 diesels could never do that pulling a Fiver, so where is the torque?
Anyway, 22 months of ownership have not dampened my enthusiasm for the incredible T/S V10 combination. I bought this truck to pull a Fiver. It does it incredibly well. The V10 is a work engine. She drinks a gal of juice every 7 miles pulling the Fiver, but the diesel friends I have with 13 foot high fivers have trouble getting 10 MPH so I have no complaints. Take care.
__________________
2005 F350 Lariat FX4 CC LB SRW with 11200 # GVWR, moonroof, Torque shift , manual transfer case, and the 6.8 V10 engine.
We had an '04 F-450 at work with the V-10. It had 4.30 gears and was a 6-speed, It sucked. My '99 7.3 with 3.73's would out pull that thing even on the stock program and with a chip there is absolutely no comparison. It was so weak and sounded like a 4-banger. Lets just say I would bet that a diesel could eat his lunch up any hill with any load and leave him with a cloud of smoke to suck up as he crawls up the hill.
__________________
99.5 F-350 4X4 reg. cab flatbed dually 6spd., Tunes by MCN diesel, Wicked Wheel, dieselsite brv, HX mod, LUK clutch upgrade, Dipricol pyro,boost,fuel. Tymar intake, CCV mod.
2000 F-250 crew cab auto 4X4. Traded on 5-8-07 because of crappy trans for:
2007 Dodge 5.9 cummins 4x4 6-spd. CC dually
1987 F-250 6.9 IDI, Old Smokey
We have a 99 7.3 6 speed with 3.73's and a 2000 V10 Auto 4.30's. I honestly think they are a flip of a coin towing here in the midwest. I have no real experience towing in the hills but our V10 seems like a beast. The 99 does have bigger tires but it also has a chip. The V10 regularly tugs around THIS at 31K plus with no problems. I think the 3 Valve V10 with a TS auto and at least 4.10's would be pretty tough.
good luck
Trinity
__________________
Early 99 6spd (Eaton Fuller Knob), 285x75 MTR's, DI 4 POS Chip, Walker BTM, listening to XM Delphi skyfi, pulling 24 ft full of Mechanical Bull, heading to a bar near you! Truck pics
Chitown, your post will probably be quoted and posted in another forum where Likenit will ask people if they think you are blowing smoke as he suspects. At least that he is how he dealt with mine. Take care.
__________________
2005 F350 Crew Cab FX4 Lariat SRW LB 3v V10
True Blue with Arizona Beige
Moonroof and all the other goodies.
Paid for A/T tires and got M/S
My dealer gave me a rebate on the tires.
stock to stock i can pull away from my buddy's v10 add a 10k mod or chip or any thing and i really blow him away.. towing up hills in connecticut ill blow past him. the only difference is I'm a long bed dually with a crew cab hes got a ext cab long bed.. just so ya know the loads we are talking about i was towing a pulling truck and all the weights plus tools boxes, trailer with every thing on it is 10k and its a tag along type trailer. oh and if i mash the throttle it will spin tires with that load behind it. now don't get me wrong I'm not saying this guy is blowing hot air or any thing I'm just telling you MY PERSONAL experience a lot of things can be different and change the out come
__________________
2001 F350 SuperCrew Long Bed Dually.
7.3L turbo Diesel, automatic transmission, goose neck hitch, fifth wheel hitch, stainless steel back rack, 315/75-16 BFG A/T's, AUX back up lights, euro-lite driving lights, upgraded fog lights, dp-tuner, auto-meter ultra-lites, 5in stacks no muffler, whelen towmans light bar, DIY tymar intake, DIY coolant filter, 2M ham rig, DIY AIC,
( egauges )
I dont know about lower elevation but here in colorado at altitude the V-10's suck. We pulled the exact same boat with a v-10 and a 7.3 and it wasn't even close. The V-10 with 3.73 held about 25 mph over vail pass where the stock 7.3 with 4.10 held around 55. Both trucks where manuals also. It really wasn't even a comparison. The gasser was sucking for air while the diesel ran away from it.
__________________
Early 99 Ford F-350 4X4 Extended Cab Dually, 4 in lift, 6spd, dual 5in stacks,ts 6 stage, zoodad, ccv, tymar,
240,000 miles and counting
1993 Ford F-350, 4X4, Fuel Injected 460, MUD TRUCK, 40in super swampers, Dana 60 Front, Dana 70 Rear, 10in home made lift.
1982 Mustang 302 HO
It might not have been as big a difference if the rear ends had been switched. Put the 4.10 in the gasser and the 3.73 in the diesel. I bet it would have been a little closer. But the diesel would probably still be superior at the higher elevation.
__________________
2005 Arizona Beige F350 XLT FX4 6.0 CC shortbed, 3.73 ls rear, 18" wheels, Tow Command. Additions: Vent Visors, bug guard, Fumoto Valve, Timbrens. Traded for...
Current Truck -- 2008 Black F350 XLT 4x4, 6.8 V10, CC Long Bed, 4.10 rear, 18" wheels, IBC. Additions: Chrome Step Bars, Chrome door handles, Silver barbed-wire pin stripe, B&W Turnover GN ball
I don't know about a pickup/5er combintion, but I had to rent a uhaul with a v10 about 2 years ago to get my broke down car home from Buffalo NY to AR.The truck box was their big one, it was empty, pulling a full car trailer ( probably around 3000lb+ )and a 4200lb car.
If that thing had wings on it, I would have had trouble keeping it on the ground [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img] It would pass anything but a gas station. It avaraged a bit over 4 mpg for the trip and I have a very steady foot and ran the speed limit and no big hills the whole way.Keep in mind, that beast probably had a pretty low rear end. I imagine a pickup would get a couple more mpg. overall weight would probably be similar to a pickup/large 5er combination
One thing that got my attention is that the thing only had about 12k miles on it when I picked it up. it was 2 qts low on oil, and I had to add oil about 3 times between NY and Arkansas. That seemed a bit excessive for a new truck.
--------Robert
__________________
'92 F-350 7.3 5 spd, Crew Cab dually,ATS turbo, 4" Exhaust, Air seat, Western Hauler bed. My Gallery
V10s run pretty good until they blow the SPARK PLUGS out of the heads. LOL
FMT
__________________ Excursion Pics
2000 Excursion Limited 4x4 Dark Satin Green Arizona Beige 7.3 DIT, AXDO, 3.73 LS, DP Tuner F5, TERMINATOR II w R-IPR, Adjustable Boost Regulator, Turbomaster, EBPV Delete, Air Dog, ITP Regulated Fuel Return, Fuel Cooler, Tags 1&2, Harpooned Tank, Magnaflow XL Exhaust w Aeroturbine 4040L, Sonnax/Tricumulator, 8 Autometer Sport Comp 4 Gauge A Pillar 4 Gauge Overhead, Ford APCM, Crimestopper Remote Starter With Remote Fast Idle, Ford AIS w Zoodad, W Code Front Modified B Code Rear springs, Rancho RS9000X, Rancho 5406 Stabilizer, Hellwig Rear Sway Bar, BFG Rugged Trail TA, V10 Trans Cooler w Dual Electric Pusher Fans, Coolant Filter, IAH Delete, (((XM))) Line Of Fire Light, Ford Cab Lights, 05 Headlights w GOS Conversion Harness, Jimmi Jammers, 03 Lighted Painted Tow Mirrors w C-BETR, PSD Badges, Pullrite Hitch, Prodigy Brake Controller, Born 01/29/00
[ QUOTE ]
V10s run pretty good until they blow the SPARK PLUGS out of the heads. LOL
FMT
[/ QUOTE ]
And 6.0's run great until you blow a turbo, reflash the computer 27 times, fix the weeping oil leak at the bell housing or replace all of the injectors hopefully before the heads are destroyed. Not to mention the intercooler line issues as well as the loss of splitshot injection at reflash #2. Did I miss anything [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Oh and there is the 6.4 that is currently under recall while this is written... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bleh.gif[/img]
__________________
Y2k F350, white with harvest gold trim,V10,4x4,Lariat,SC,Auto,Tow pkg,camper pkg,ESOF, so-called limited slip, off road,3.73,Rancho 9000 w/ in cab control, Ride Rite Air Bags,Long bed,Rickson 19.5" wheels, Michelin XDE-MS,Lance Camper, BugDeflector2, Stull Grill, KN., Flowmaster 50
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
V10s run pretty good until they blow the SPARK PLUGS out of the heads. LOL
FMT
[/ QUOTE ]
And 6.0's run great until you blow a turbo, reflash the computer 27 times, fix the weeping oil leak at the bell housing or replace all of the injectors hopefully before the heads are destroyed. Not to mention the intercooler line issues as well as the loss of splitshot injection at reflash #2. Did I miss anything [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Oh and there is the 6.4 that is currently under recall while this is written... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bleh.gif[/img]
[/ QUOTE ]
Was all of this on YOUR truck or are you "passing along info?" My 04 F350 with 67K miles has had none of that and tows a WHOLE lot better than a V10 ever will. Heck, my 97 F250 HD with a 460 tows better than the new v10 AND gets better fuel mileage....not by much though.
__________________
2004 F350 Crew XLT 4x4 long box, SRW, 3.73 Gears
Bone Stock
I've never towed with a 6.0 but I have towed with a 99 v-10. It was on a 35 ft motorhome chassis, towing a small suv. I've never weighed the motorhome, but with 100 gal fuel, fresh water at 80 gal and a half full grey water tank-about 65, the motorhome would do 80-85 and would hold hills at around 55. I was impressed, however, I can not compare to a powerstoke. I have however, towed along side a 33 ft motorhome with the 460. That motorhome didn't hold a candle to the v-10. I was very impressed with the v-10. Just don't forget, you don't pass many gas stations with this rig!
I think if you want to compare, do the V10 to the 7.3. I have driven both. The 7.3 out pulls the V10 hands down. The bigger the load the wider the spread.
My personal opinion is the 7.3 is the best Powerstroke engine of all variations.
?? Anyone want to comment?
__________________
1999.5 F250 PSD 4X4
Mgf. Date 07/99
, auto-meter ultra-lites, 5in stacks no muffler, whelen towmans light bar, DIY tymar intake, DIY coolant filter, 2M ham rig, DIY AIC, 
Linear Mode
