I may consider the V-10 for a truck purchase coming up. I already have 2 powerstrokes.
I wondered what power levels can be acheived and what the cost is. I briefly read a magazine ad for a company that claims they can supercharge the triton V-10 and add 30% more power.
Please list any information and experiences you may have.
I would like to consider the cost savings of the v-10 vs the diesel and the supercharging method of gaining power.
I had the pleasure of driving a 2000 Ford Lightning the other day. I believe they use an Eaton supercharger(correct me if I'm wrong) It's incredible the extra oomph a supercharger will put in an engine.
I believe both Eaton and Paxton make superchargers for the V10. The prices I'm not sure of, but I know it's more than the PSD option by the time you beef up the tranny. Truck Trend did an article about a year ago about the Paxton. You could probably dig it up on the internet somewhere.
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DUKES2FORDS- I have a 2000 V10 with the Vortech supercharger making 8-9psi of boost. In 100% factory trim the truck made 209hp. In stock trim with the supercharger it made 314hp. That's approximately 50% increase in power. These numbers were generated early on in our development and will increase as soon as we have all of the fine tuning done. The truck gets on the average 12-13.5 mpg and that's with the 4.30's and 35" tires. The system should be available for retail sale right around the beginning of the year. Take care.
Ricky B
p.s. I have the dyno charts if you would like to see them. E-mail me.
As far as I know, the only kits you can buy today are Paxton's Novi and a Kenne Bell Kit. The Novi has to be one of the best performing street centrifugals out there. The KB will offer instant boost right out of the hole. They are both very nice units, and Vortech will have a kit soon also. I hope the use the T Trim, the smaller S Trim would be working hard to keep up with 6.8 liters!
The S trim from Vortech would more than keep up with the 415 ci. The S trim puts out 1000cfm the V-10 is no were close to using that kinda flow.
I have a 91 stang with the S trim. I also have a 99 Lightning with the roots style Eaton. The Eaton is only 600cfm, 1.2liter. The Kenne Bell screw/roots is a 2.2liter at 1000cfm or better. For a truck Torque is king, My opion is a roots/screw with instant boost would be better. Any setup (making boost) would make a BIG improvement.
The Vortech system is now available!!!! Retail price on it is $3,836.95. That's about $1,500.00 less than brand "P". It uses the S-trim compressor and produces 8-9psi of boost. We mapped both the T and the S for the V10 and for the amount of compressor rpm being generated to make these boost numbers, the S trim still rose to the top. You just cant beat the performance of the S trim on most stock applications even at 415ci. The horsepower and torque numbers on a 2000 V10 go from 310/425 NA to 463/553 with the supercharger. This is just FYI fellas. Take care.
DUKESTOFORDS- my e-mail reply is forthcoming. My apologies for the delay as I have been out of the office for a few days to work with some magazines.
Kevin 350, I agree that the S Trim can feed this big motor, but the Novi's gonna make more boost sooner. I run a Procharger on my Mustang, originally the P600B, and now a D1B, the boost comes ALOT sooner!! The S Trim is a great blower, but I think the NOVI would out perform it at the same boost level.
N2Boost, how do you address fueling with the V10 kit. I would assume with an FMU, seeing that the trucks still have a return type fuel system. Have you guys tinkered with intercooling? I'm sure you guys would use your water to air system, but what about a stock PSD intercooler? It looks like it would bolt right in, and this thing is huge!! Get this, retail from Ford is only $350!!! A similar unit of this size from Spearco would run you $1300-1500!!! Somebody tell me why you wouldn't run 10-12 psi of intercooled Vortech or Paxton on this thing?
[This message has been edited by DynoDan (edited 12-01-2000).]
DynoDan: Funny you should ask about the cooler deal. I am currently in the process of installing the factory Ford PSD cooler on the truck so we can do some data logging with it. Your right though the factory cooler is enormous and should work well. Once installed, I will change the pulley to increase boost to approx 11-12psi. Once i have gathered all of the information on the air/air unit, we will then design one of our air/water units and do a direct back to back real world comparison. Either way the truck already rips and can only get better. We are handling fuel control via an FMU(7:1), a fuel pump, and a custom ECM program to control open & closed loop timing.
I am however curious as to whether you were referring to the NOVI1000 or 2000 being a better blower than the S-trim on the V10. I guess if you are thinking the 1000 then it would be up for arguement just because that blower is so new. If you are referring to the 2000, pound for pound on the V10....the S-trim annihilates it. The NOVI2K is far to big a supercharger for anything that doesn't make 500+ horsepower. It's bigger than our T-trim and even the T-trim mapped out to be less efficient due its size (too big). I was just curious. Just to clarify: our s/c @ 9psi increases hp by 155 and torque by 128. That's about 40 hp and 50lbs/ft more than our closest competitor. Take care bud
Look into the DEC 2000 issue of OFF-ROAD magazine. They install the KENNY BELL SUPER C into an EXCURSION. Seems to be a pretty easy setup and they post some dyno info from the run. No claims of percentages in the article. I talked to a few people on cost and an installer about actual performance gains. $3800 for the unit plus install (if you can't do it). Seems the installer is a gear head and runs MUSTANGS and swears by super c's . Basically if you want torque instantly , add a super. I asked about the claims of hp increase and he agreed it tends to be a true measure. These bolt-on products tend to help but the numbers don't add up to the bottom line. Dollar for dollar, you will see a greater return on the super over the plentiful bolt-on products on the market today. He added that an hi flow intake and exhuast will help overall the performance of the super.
I hope you find this as my opinion and not as what a real world testiominal to what a super will do for you. That's alot of money (to some) to throw into a truck for the sake of performance. I tend to ask alot of questions and seek out the best advice.
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