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Old 12-21-2009, 11:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bad Oil Cooler?

I will start by saying I have been reading this foum on and off for afew years and what I have seen has been great!

I have a 06 F350 CC SRW with about 130K on it now. I bought this truck used with about 100 on it so I do not know the history, but it appears to be a very clean well taken care of truck.

I have had some cold start issues, not every day or even every time it is cold (40* or so). I have also had issues with loss of pwr when towing (under easy accelaration) the truck will smoke heavy black and not build boost or gain speed. If i acc. faster it will run and pull normal.

So I did my reserch and red some diff things on here and decided I must be haveing some EGR issues. I bought a EGR and cooler del. last week. I have not yet installed it.

Today I ran arround in it like normal with no probs at all. I got in the truck this afternoon and when I started the truck I could smell coolent, not much but i could smell it (temp gauge in mid "normal"). I fig i was having some of the normal symptoms of the cooler failure and told myself i would start the removal in the morning (no big deal). As I drove the truck for about a mile or so I got the smell again (temp gauge now higher than normal). I was then concerned so i pulled over to add water to get back home when I got out of the truck I saw a large puddel of milkey oil on the ground.

The truck never ran bad, smoked, missed, or over heated. I called a wrecker and had it towed to the house.

The only thing i can think it would be is the oil cooler, I have had many Diesel trucks and have never had anything like this happen.

Now the question is what should i do if it is? I am a fan of the aftermarket for most things but not everything for sure. I dont like the sound of 2000 for a bulet proof oil cooler, nor do I want to go with the stock cooler and have the same issue later.

Any input would be Great!

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If you have milky goop in your degas bottle, you have a bad oil cooler... Your options for repairing it are pretty limited.. Aside from the two options you've already listed, I don't know of any other choices.. Since you are now going to have to do extensive flushing of the entire cooling system to get all that gunk out, I would install a new factory oil cooler and a coolant filter kit. That should keep you from having to repeat this anytime soon....
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I can sell you the whole cooler for $382 (which are on backorder right now) or the cooler "rebuild" kit for $198. You replace the core, and reuse the old body. Its a little extra BS, but saves $$ in the end. In fact, the rebuild is the only thing the techs can use for warranty work.

I'm still a little new to this site, but it seems like those coolant filters will REALLY help prevent this sort of thing from happening again. It makes sense; the coolant passages are what always plug up and cause failure.
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Should i do anything else while i am in there?
HPOP or anything? I am going to pick up the oil cooler rebuild now so if i need to do other stuff I will get it now.

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Paige,

If your going that deep you might as well replace the EGR Cooler. Ford Power Stroke 6.0L Parts Upgrades from BulletProofDiesel.com makes a great one to keep the EGR system in place or you can (for off road purposes only and not street leagal) install a EGR Cooler delete/block off kit... Also if you are rebuliding your oil cooler go ahead and order the upgraded HPOP Filter Screen from Ford Power Stroke 6.0L Parts Upgrades from BulletProofDiesel.com as the stock one is more than likely toast. Make sure you flush the system really good, oil in coolant likes to stick to the inside of rubber hoses and in really bad cases you may have to take your radiator to get cleaned.

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I can sell you the whole cooler for $382 (which are on backorder right now) or the cooler "rebuild" kit for $198.
Those are outstanding prices!! I paid nearly $600 for my oil cooler last March...
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I have the EGR delete, I ordered it last week and I am doing that install at the same time. I bought the rebuild kit from my local dealer today for 240. I would have bought from Tousley if I had more time, but that was not the case. I started the repair at about 4 or 4:30 today and worked on it until about 10:00. I am trying to clean everything that I can. I fig the more of this crap I get out before the flush the better. everything is out, cleaned, and the up pipe has been done at this point. I will finish up in the morning and start the flush process wich I understand could take the better part of the day. I cleaned everything with hot water and it seems to work much better. I feel like the rad may need to be removed and cleaned but we will see what happens. I am going to use cascade and simple green (not at the same time) to flush as much as i can. Then install the new coolent filter.

What a HUGE pain in the A$$!!

It is not as bad as I expected it to be (at this point) but I dont think it is a repair that should be attempted by just anyone.

Thanks for the input and I will post the results as soon as I have some.

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You need to replace the EGR cooler too because when the Oilcooler goes out that sludge goes through the EGR cooler next and ends up screwing it up too. It would suck to replace one and have to do it all over again in a month or so.
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prefered flushing fluid: Simple Green (as per Ford) I've seen techs use Dawn dish soap also.

On some of the bad ones, we end up replacing every hose, heater core, radiator, degas bottle

Don't worry, thats on the just the extreme cases, usually fleet driven vehicles

"Hey, is brown stuff inside that tank bad? Its been like that for a few weeks now
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