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Old 08-02-2005, 09:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Banks Exhaust -vs- ??

Does the Banks have any advantages over any other exhaust? How do they sound? I heard a 6.0 the other day that sounded so sweet. he was idleing by over speed bumbs at work and when he lightly pressed the pedal I could here the tirbo in his exhaust like it was right next to my ear. The whine sounded cool. Was wondering if the Banks offers such a great sound?
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I'm running the Banks system and no it doesn't have any advantages over other 4in systems. They all flow very well. The differences are material, fitment, location, and sound.
The distant turbo wine you mentioned people comment on alot. They tell me it sounds like a jet chopper spinning up. The Banks system has OEM sound levels when cruising which I wanted. When you stand-in-it Banks has a growl type of tone. Again I prefer the stealth approach but others like it to rumble. A personal thing.
There may be others that are near OEM sound levels but all I've heard are the loud ones. I spent about 90 days comparing exhaust tones before I chose.

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Re: Banks Exhaust -vs- ??

How did you compare the exhaust tones?
What made you decide on the Banks system?
Is it a full system, or do you have the cat?
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Re: Banks Exhaust -vs- ??

To compare I attended a few diesel truck events and or asked the guy driving what exhaust he had.
I new I had found the answer when I heard the Banks kit. You can't hear it with windows up or down. The PSD makes more noise.
The Banks system retains the cat and is considered a full system (turbo back) as removing the cat is illegal for street use... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
For reference, total time was about 2 hours for removal & install.
Beer breaks don't ya know!

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Re: Banks Exhaust -vs- ??

Thanks for the info, that sounds like what I am looking for as well. Did you have to cut any of the factory pipes to remove them, or does everything come off intact?
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Re: Banks Exhaust -vs- ??

Does banks make a kit for cat back or is that pretty much a waste of hard earned money?
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there is a trick to keeps the cat with the 4 inch exhaust. cut the pipes off the cat and weld 4" to it.
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BoostMe,

The info you have read is true based on the specific system and if it is cat or non cat. The MBRP systems can be installed with or without the cat with our cat delete pipe, this way you get the turbo whistle and a little bit more exhaust note volume. But if you install it with the cat in place (by the way the MBRP is the ONLY system that doesn't require you to cut or modify the cat to do this, the stock cat is very pricey most don't wnat to cut it up to install it) you have a 99% stock sounding system with just a slight extra turbo whistle. Almost all the systems we sell the customer chooses to get the cat test pipe, so almost all the systems out there will sound different than the ones you might buy depending on if you keep the cat or delete it etc. The cat on the 2003 + 6.0 is a restriction, but it's not anywhere near the restriction the old style cats were in recent years, same with the Dodge and GM diesel cats. Cat back systems are good they help a lot, but are not as free flowing as our MBRP turbo back ones, plus the turbo back costs less than a cat back and down pipe so even if you think you want a cat back get the turbo back as when you decide to add the down pipe it will cost you more overall. Call us if you have any questions etc, we'll be glad to help etc.

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The MBRP systems can be installed with or without the cat with our cat delete pipe, this way you get the turbo whistle and a little bit more exhaust note volume.

Mark @ DPPI

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One very important point- removing the cat for street use WILL get you a very large fine if caught. You also won't pass inspection until its replaced and you show a reciept as proof the fine was paid!
Don't know about other states, but many including Texas can and do pull people over for loud exhaust. If the LEO choses you get another fine.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
Also, there are a few threads addressing backpressure and performance. The OEM cat used on the 6.0 doesn't present enough backpressure to make any difference for 99% of users. In fact, the factory catty can flow enough volume for about 500hp before any significant pressures are shown. Since most users are adding maybe 130hp (and thats far and few between)the OEM cat is fine. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Mark- I'm not disagreeing with you. But the facts relating to cat removal should be made clear to all. I know you folks are good people so please dont flame me over this. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

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Re: Banks Exhaust -vs- ??

Wekiwa,

I notice in your sig. that you run a Banks Big Hoss. How do you like it? Any problems?? Hows the power and milege. My Ford dealer is a Banks dealer so I lean toward them installing a Banks than another brand tuner for warranty reasons.

Also thanks to everyone who replied with great information, sounds like there are alot of good choices when it comes to exhaust.
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Re: Banks Exhaust -vs- ??

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Wekiwa,

I notice in your sig. that you run a Banks Big Hoss. How do you like it? Any problems?? Hows the power and milege. My Ford dealer is a Banks dealer so I lean toward them installing a Banks than another brand tuner for warranty reasons.

Also thanks to everyone who replied with great information, sounds like there are alot of good choices when it comes to exhaust.

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Boostme, where are you in AZ?? You sound like you're in my 'hood.

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DecreasingDave,

I am in your hood, I live in Saint David and bought my truck from Lawley's in Sierra Vista. Good to see neighbors in the forum.
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Re: Banks Exhaust -vs- ??

go to rollingbigpower.com sound great good power i have had banks they fit good but you cant here your truck rbp you know you have a truck but it is not loud my friends say when i pass them damm it sounds good i want one
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Re: Banks Exhaust -vs- ??

dieseldan1,

Aren't the RBP systems just Magnaflow with RBP stamped into the muffler? I saw this on the Dodge sites I frequent, looks the same as well.

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