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Old 09-18-2005, 02:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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BullyDog Power Pup Questions


I am interested in a Bully Dog Power Pup but don't want the monitor.


1. For those that have it, what type of mpg gains are you seeing?

2. Is it safe for the tranny? Can you adjust tranny settings with out having the monitor?


3. If I run it on low hp, do I need EGT probe? Does it run hot?

4. Do you have to leave it plugged into the trucks' computer port all of the time? Otherwise, how do you change hp settings?

5. How much hp/torque does it make at low rpms?

6. To take truck to dealer, what do you do so that they don't know that it's been there, just disconnect the battery?

7. Bully dog's website doesn't have much info on this product. Does anybody know where I can download a brochure?


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Old 09-18-2005, 03:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: BullyDog Power Pup Questions

johndeerefarmer,
1. Haven't used it enough to know for sure about added economy.
2. 3 different shifting configurations to choose from.
3. If you tow, get a pyrometer.
4. The PowerPup is a tuner. You load the tune and remove the cable. Adjustments are NOT shift-on-the-fly.
5. See the 6.0 Dyno Shootout results on this website for REAL numbers.
6. Before taking it to a dealer, reload stock tune and leave the PowerPup at home. If they look deep enough at your trucks computer they will know it has been reprogrammed. This is true for any chip/tuner.
7. Not sure about a PDF brochure.

I have the tuner that was used at the 6.0 Dyno Shootout in Nashville. It is listed in the "For Sale" section. BullyDog wants $549.95 plus taxes and shipping. I am asking $475 and I will pay shipping. Let me know if you are interested.
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Re: BullyDog Power Pup Questions

I just got a Bully Dog Power Pup. Since then I've found this site and the consensus seems to be the SCT programmer - but I'll see how this works for a while. Addressing you questions:

1. MPG gains are minimal at this point. I get maybe 1 mpg better, but I idle alot as a contractor. Also, you'll find that you get a little heavier foot w/more power. I do think that w/more conservative driving and if I skewed more toward highway miles, that figure would increase some.

2. There are four settings (stock, tow/haul, performance, & extreme). There is programing in the Performance and Extreme settings for the transmission. The first setting is called "Smooth" (smoother than stock) and the second is called "Agressive" (quick and firm). I gather "smooth" and "aggresive" can be used for the Performance setting, and "agressive" would be used for the Extreme setting.

3. I haven't installed an EGT probe yet. I keep the programmer in tow mode most of the time so I'm not that worried about it yet.

4. That seems to be the beauty of this product. You can set the program and unplug, or leave it plugged in and change the program while you drive. Again, I leave it in Tow mode most of the time, but sometimes it is cool to change to Extreme at a light for one quick pass. Also, what is interesting is this programmer works on other manufacturers' trucks. A co-worker of mine has a Dodge and we were able to experiment w/this programmer on his truck. This programmer seems to make serious power for a Dodge.

5. I had problems finding exact figures from Bully Dog also. I think they give generic ranges b/c this programmer fits the Dodge and Chevy also. You can look up the Horsepower Shootout in these forums to see HP/Torque curves for the various Ford programmers.

6. The programmer does allow you to set your truck back to stock programming. Being new to a programmer, I'm still not sure that that's enough. Maybe someone else could chime in here. It seems like to be on the safe side you could either disconnect the battery for some amount of time, or discharge them completely. Again, anyone else chipping in would be helpful. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

7. I agree, the website doesn't seem to be that informative. I think you can still go to any 4 Wheel Parts store to get a trial 3 day download. They will also open a box for you and you can check out the literature & instructions that come w/the programmer (but you still won't see hard HP/Torque figures).

This downloader also removes the speed limiter (fyi). Bully Dog also allows for downloadable capability from their website if programming changes need to be made. So far, Ive been pretty happy with this product. I like the capability of changing the program on the fly.
I think, however, that you'll still find that the SCT tuner is still the most popular here.
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Re: BullyDog Power Pup Questions

GMS,
The literature I have says you need the "Outlook Monitor" in addition to the PowerPup tuner if you want shift-on-the-fly capability. Does your Tuner change HP and Trans settings on-the-fly if you leave it plugged into the OBDII port ?
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Re: BullyDog Power Pup Questions

Correct. You just leave it plugged into OBD port. That's what I liked - you can leave the tuner in your console most of the time, and then pull it out at a stoplight and change to the Extreme setting before the light turns green. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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