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Old 12-15-2007, 03:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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chances of blowing head gaskets?

if i get the xcal3 from diesel innovations with xtreme street, street, and tow what are my chances of blowing my head gaskets? i have a 4 in turbo back exhaust with 5in tip with a 4 in down pipe and if i did the tuner i would also get a quadzilla commander monitor.
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

No way to tell you that...it either will blow them...or it won't.
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: texasdiesel8</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if i get the xcal3 from diesel innovations with xtreme street, street, and tow what are my chances of blowing my head gaskets? i have a 4 in turbo back exhaust with 5in tip with a 4 in down pipe and if i did the tuner i would also get a quadzilla commander monitor. </div></div>
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

I ran an EDGE since about 8k miles on an 03 model (to hear some tell it is the worst thing in the world) little over 100k now
I love to see the smoke, and hear the tires spin, but also I was responsible.....if there is a happy medium!

My recommendation is get what you want enjoy it, but remember what could happen if you go crazy with it. Everytime I want to PLAY...I remember the old saying....You Play, You PAY! Life is short....Drive a Diesel and enjoy it!
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

Basically...

Your Mileage may vary...
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

chances? like...a mathmatical formula? lol I stopped at algebra 2. imo, it's a 50% chance. you either will, or you won't.
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

ha ha yea kind of what i figured! just really wanted to know because im just tryin to look at it from all angles because i really want those extra hp's. thanks for the posts guys
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

Just run the extreme race program for your daily driver and keep your foot out of it until you need a quick blast.......In the beginning you will always need a quick blast.. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] but that will wear off pretty soon.....besides if you still have warranty, be proactive and find a dealer that will work with you and install the studs for you if she blows......If you find that scenario that run it like you stole it, until you get tired of low gas mileage......
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

So, what causes the higher pressures?

I always thought cylinder compression was cylinder compression.

In fact, copmpression will diminish with miles and wear.

I guess added fuel would fill the cylinder with a denser than air substance but not that much.

Can't be water temperatures being increased by EGT cuz my water temp does not vary with EGT.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: towedalotharley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, what causes the higher pressures?

I always thought cylinder compression was cylinder compression.

In fact, copmpression will diminish with miles and wear.

I guess added fuel would fill the cylinder with a denser than air substance but not that much.

Can't be water temperatures being increased by EGT cuz my water temp does not vary with EGT.

Any information would be greatly appreciated. </div></div>


Cylinder compression in the terms you're speaking is static compression. Dynamic compression can change and is altered by opening and closing valves at different times.
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

I've been running the Insanity file for quite awhile now. I finally ran it hard enough and boiled the coolant. Dragging some POS Bully Dog Dodge down I-64 for about 7-10 miles I guess she got too hot.

I have NO further issues with the coolant since I was overfilled from my research when she puked. Make sure you are BELOW the max line on the coolant bottle when running the tunes.
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

I'm still a chicken in the "tunes" part of upgrades.

Funny, how you get older, and just do things differently.

I'm not wiser.

I just have smaller balls I guess !!!
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MDub707</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: towedalotharley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, what causes the higher pressures?

I always thought cylinder compression was cylinder compression.

In fact, copmpression will diminish with miles and wear.

I guess added fuel would fill the cylinder with a denser than air substance but not that much.

Can't be water temperatures being increased by EGT cuz my water temp does not vary with EGT.

Any information would be greatly appreciated. </div></div>


Cylinder compression in the terms you're speaking is static compression. Dynamic compression can change and is altered by opening and closing valves at different times. </div></div>


Valve timing and duration can only be changed by replacing the camshaft. A "tuner" does not affect the valves. When speaking about head gasket failures and pressure, it is all about excessive cylinder pressures directly related to fuel rates and higher turbocharger boost levels. The stock 26 PSI limit can be breeched with a tuner AND a sticking turbo can also allow boost pressures to climb. A stock calibration will attempt to slow the turbo...
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

More Confused Now ......

A turbocharger is not much more than a "windmill". It's controlled by exhaust gases. More exhaust causes turbo to spin faster, correct?

So, how does a "tuner" change the boost?

I understand changing "wastegates" to increase boost, but we don't have a wastegate, do we?

And it has to take alot of added fuel to change compression ratios, I would think.
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Re: chances of blowing head gaskets?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ford_Doctor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MDub707</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: towedalotharley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, what causes the higher pressures?

I always thought cylinder compression was cylinder compression.

In fact, copmpression will diminish with miles and wear.

I guess added fuel would fill the cylinder with a denser than air substance but not that much.

Can't be water temperatures being increased by EGT cuz my water temp does not vary with EGT.

Any information would be greatly appreciated. </div></div>


Cylinder compression in the terms you're speaking is static compression. Dynamic compression can change and is altered by opening and closing valves at different times. </div></div>


Valve timing and duration can only be changed by replacing the camshaft. A "tuner" does not affect the valves. When speaking about head gasket failures and pressure, it is all about excessive cylinder pressures directly related to fuel rates and higher turbocharger boost levels. The stock 26 PSI limit can be breeched with a tuner AND a sticking turbo can also allow boost pressures to climb. A stock calibration will attempt to slow the turbo... </div></div>

Valve timing can be changed without a camshaft change, however duration you are correct. I have a decent understanding of how the cylinder pressure's work in our trucks, I was just trying to explain a basic concept of valve timing and lift/duration. My apologies for not being more clear.
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