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Old 09-22-2008, 05:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cold Air Intake

Does Anybody Know If A Cold Air Intake On A 06 Diesel Will Improve The Perfomance Or Is It A Waste Of Money
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Old 09-22-2008, 05:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Does Anybody Know If A Cold Air Intake On A 06 Diesel Will Improve The Perfomance Or Is It A Waste Of Money
basically a waste of $$ until u hit +500HP... keep the good filtration of the O.G. filter system...
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basically a waste of $$ until u hit +500HP... keep the good filtration of the O.G. filter system...
I'll agree, unless you just like the sound of the turbo.

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Get the S&B, it just looks cooler.
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Has anyone who claims the stocker is good upto x amount of HP actually ran one, or just repeating what others say here on the board? The reason I ask is the gains in throttle response and turbo spool up are pretty clear when switching from stock to say an S&B or AFE unit. Peak HP is not what intakes are meant for. Sure the stock intake will work, but so will the stock exhaust, intake manifold, intercooler, turbo, etc. Here are some numbers on the S&B unit and its improvements over the stock unit from ISO 5011 testing.

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Old 09-23-2008, 04:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Okay here's my take on the data given by the report.

Drop in a new OEM filter and compare the results to any new aftermarket kit...we will use the S&B as we have that info to compare. I wouldn't expect any real gains since neither filter is clogged.

After driving for a thousands of miles I would expect the S&B to have better flow, BUT the OEM has a higher capacity to hold more particles by over 485%.

From the report: "The Top Table demonstrates the results of the testing for up to three (3) samples per filter type (part number). The
Efficiency represents the amount of dust (contaminants) that was stopped by the filter during each test. The Capacity
measures the dust holding capability of the filter."

With this statement alone it seems as the OEM filter would be best overall for long term dusty conditions compared to the S&B.

If I wanted to have HP then swap in the S&B, if I want long term dust protection then stick to the OEM.
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when i say that u don need it untill after +500HP, i mean for typical uses.. i use my truck for pulling and long hauls... i dont necessarilly need a high flowing filter to add HP, i just need things to keep the EGT's lower... give me a filter that could do that and i'll be first in line.. i dont use my truck in sled pulls and drag races so having quicker spools and better throttle response isnt worth the hit in filtration.. FOR ME..... its diff for everyone
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I think my throttle response is a bit better and it seems to spool up a bit quicker.
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i imagine it spools quite a bit quicker.. and sawed off?? aggie??

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I think my throttle response is a bit better and it seems to spool up a bit quicker.
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i imagine it spools quite a bit quicker.. and sawed off?? aggie??

Not by a bunch by no means. The only reason I really got this aftermarket filter to begin with is because of are racecar sponsor. He talked me into it, telling me how much more power and power on demand this thing has. Well to tell ya the truth it was a struggle to get the thing to work! It was throwing a "over excessive egr flow" trouble code. So they replaced it with a updated kit. I really just would of been happier with my money back, Just like everyone says. The stock filter on these trucks are very good till around 500hp and the list that you should abide on for mods that I diddn't should be Exhaust, Gauges, Tuner, then cold air intake. Hope this helps you out buddy!
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I just bought an AFE used and I am hating it currently. Truck keeps throwing a MAF low voltage or some $hit and its farting in the intake. Honestly I think my MAF is f-ed due to the fact that it seems to be temp sensitive.

Anybody else have this sort of issue. I'm going to keep the intake on and sort it out considering I only paid 125 for the thing instead of full market value. Def spools faster and does sound nice.

As far as buying an intake goes buy used look on craigslist.
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I run a cold air intake and I think I get a little better throttle response, and slightly better fuel economy. I would buy one again.
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I just bought an AFE used and I am hating it currently. Truck keeps throwing a MAF low voltage or some $hit and its farting in the intake. Honestly I think my MAF is f-ed due to the fact that it seems to be temp sensitive.

Anybody else have this sort of issue. I'm going to keep the intake on and sort it out considering I only paid 125 for the thing instead of full market value. Def spools faster and does sound nice.

As far as buying an intake goes buy used look on craigslist.

Couple questions, you should have a hose going from the filter to the crankcase breather. Check to see if their is any kinks in it. Thats why mine was throwing a code. Or it could be getting too much air to the breather. Amsoil/injen changed the outlet of that piece on my plentum to a 90 degree fitting instead of the straight one. And on the updated kit, they told me to take that stock plastic 90degree elbow out of the breather port and to attach the hose right over the main hole. Second Qwestion, do you have any leaks anywhere?? they said to check for that issue too. The Tech guy I talked to over at amsoil said he has worked with every brand filter and that the main problem with many of them that hopefully got updated now was to do with the crank case vent hose.

As far as the turbo fart, thats always there, you just can't hear it with the oem filter as much. Hope this stuff helps
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it does.. so what brand would be ur number one selection for performance and ur number one for the $$$......

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Not by a bunch by no means. The only reason I really got this aftermarket filter to begin with is because of are racecar sponsor. He talked me into it, telling me how much more power and power on demand this thing has. Well to tell ya the truth it was a struggle to get the thing to work! It was throwing a "over excessive egr flow" trouble code. So they replaced it with a updated kit. I really just would of been happier with my money back, Just like everyone says. The stock filter on these trucks are very good till around 500hp and the list that you should abide on for mods that I diddn't should be Exhaust, Gauges, Tuner, then cold air intake. Hope this helps you out buddy!
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a hose going from the filter to the crankcase breather. Check to see if their is any kinks in it. Or it could be getting too much air to the breather. Amsoil/injen changed the outlet of that piece on my plentum to a 90 degree fitting instead of the straight one. And on the updated kit, they told me to take that stock plastic 90degree elbow out of the breather port and to attach the hose right over the main hole. Second Qwestion, do you have any leaks anywhere?? they said to check for that issue too. The Tech guy I talked to over at amsoil said he has worked with every brand filter and that the main problem with many of them that hopefully got updated now was to do with the crank case vent hose.

As far as the turbo fart, thats always there, you just can't hear it with the oem filter as much. Hope this stuff helps

Where on the filter is that line to the crank case beather? Do you have any pics of the parts and areas? I'll check this morning when I get home. It's not the fart that really bothers but the engine actually surging almost cutting out "like". Thanks for the response and I'll have a look.

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