TO EDGE OR NOT TO EDGE???

[HARLYBO]

I have an edge that a bought and want to put on my truck. I got it just for better milage. I will prob just use it in the lowest setting for better milage. Will that hurt the motor that much with just 20 or 30 more horse???? Will that still blow head gaskets? Is it worth it to chip it?

[teamroper60]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HARLYBO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have an edge that a bought and want to put on my truck. I got it just for better milage. I will prob just use it in the lowest setting for better milage. Will that hurt the motor that much with just 20 or 30 more horse????</div></div>

No. You will be fine at that setting and it won't damage your tranny either (contrary to popular opinon).

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HARLYBO</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Will that still blow head gaskets?</div></div>

Not if your headgaskets were ok before you install it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HARLYBO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is it worth it to chip it? </div></div>

If you are doing this for fuel mileage, I would say no. Unless you drive a ridiculous amount of miles, the cost of a programmer/module will not be recouped in increased fuel mileage for a very long time. On top of that, while it is entirely possible to get better mileage with a programmer/module, most folks end up sticking their foot a little deeper in the throttle when they realize they have that power and then instead of getting better mileage, they get no better and more likely worse mileage.

[HARLYBO]

I bought the edge cheap it was used, so it won't take long to recoup the savings.(100.00) Just didn't know for sure if I should put it on yet. Should I wait til the factory warr is done?

[teamroper60]

If you are concerned about your warranty, then yes, I would wait. Others will tell you to just take it off if you need to go to the dealer. I both agree and disagree with that philosophy and here is why:

If you need to have something diagnosed on your truck, the dealership will need the Edge removed so their computers can accurately communicate with the truck computer, so it does need to be off for that. HOWEVER, I disagree with taking it off for the purpose of hiding it from your dealer. Doing so to fraudulently obtain warranty work you are not entitled to, is illegal (and yes, my dealer knows I have it on my truck)....

[JohnD250]

I ran the edge since about 8k miles on my 03. I normally ran it on "3", but occasionally 4 and 5. When I wanted to hot rod I would throw it in 5, and the tranny just could not get it. So I kept it lower.
When I was towing I used 2 or 3, I have a 37ft 5th wheel.
It helped my fuel mileage a little I think, but remember that BLACK smoke is unburned fuel, so there went my mileage!

As for the warranty thing. I would tell the Dealership it was there, and they normaly would work with me. Some dealerships will and some will not. I figured as long as I didn't go HOG WILD with the accelerator, I would be OK, unless it was destined to break in the first place.
I did have to remove it once for the dealer to check it out, but I never tried to hide it from them. It came up fuel pump. Besides that no motor troubles, and I have just over 100k now.

[HARLYBO]

When I wanted to hot rod I would throw it in 5, and the tranny just could not get it. So I kept it lower.

What do you mean by that? the tranny just could not get it?

[teamroper60]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HARLYBO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I wanted to hot rod I would throw it in 5, and the tranny just could not get it. So I kept it lower.

What do you mean by that? the tranny just could not get it? </div></div>

Most likely, he had an old version of the Juice like mine. It is NOT tranny friendly. Many a tranny suffered serious damage from using that version on power level 5.

The Platinum has some settings to help with that issue. Those controls are not as robust as a programmer's. A lot of folks think they are not adequate but I haven't seen a single post saying the Platinum toasted their tranny.

[popups4rent]

The Platinum requires you to acknowledge that you are changing the defueling off of 100%. It tells you damage may result to the tranny. The defueling seems very effective, sometimes too much when it is not warmed up yet.

[snoboy]

My personal opinion (based on experience) is stay away from Edge with a 6.0 Ford. I'm sure the products work great on Dodge and Chevy but if you own a 6.0 get an SCT X3 from DJ or Innovative. I had (still have) a Juice, made good power but the shifting sucks and made for a crummy driving truck. I then bought an Evolution for the tranny program. It was OK at best until I loaded the truck and then it also sucked. As a HP tuner the Evolution is a complete POS. It shifts bad and makes my truck run lousy.
Fast forward to SCTX3 from DJ. Truck runs awesome, shifts awesome, and is more of a joy to drive. I am running his new Economy tune and it is perfect for daily driving. It has instant throttle response, good power (I would call it impressive), low EGTs and shifts like a dream. SCT is the ticket for the 6.0.

snoboy's .02

[teamroper60]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: snoboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had (still have) a Juice, made good power but the shifting sucks and made for a crummy driving truck. I then bought an Evolution for the tranny program. It was OK at best until I loaded the truck and then it also sucked. As a HP tuner the Evolution is a complete POS. It shifts bad and makes my truck run lousy.</div></div>

I too had the Evo for tranny tuning at one time. It worked well for me until I put a load on the truck and then is sucked big time. I ended up with an SCT from Innovative with trans only tunes and now the shifting is spot on. Got to give Eric kudos for his tranny tunes for sure.

I'm still leary of the power programs for an SCT though. Too many puking issues with the custom tunes for my blood.

[snoboy]

Roper, I hear ya.I too am leary of the puking and any other issues associated with too much hp. I think the economy tune is like 30-40 hp, probably not alot of top end but it has instant throttle response and just a great allround feel. It's perfect for me cuz I'm not a tire burner or racer, heck I mostly drive about 2 under the speed limit but I never liked having to push the pedal wayyy down to get moving or hold speed on a hill. My truck always seemed to have more than enough air just not enough fuel (if that makes any sense). This tune seems to have a perfect combination and makes barely any more heat (if any)than stock. I may just get the jake brake added to this tune and never change.

snoboy

[InnovativeDiesel]

Keep the power to a moderate level and you shouldn't have any gasket issues. If you run the high power programs, like our Xtreme, don't abuse the truck constantly and you will be fine also. It is important to use the appropriate program for the task, like only towing with our Tow program.

Shifting isn't an issue w/ our custom tuning. I have trucks making well over 500-600rwhp with stock trans.

[MDub707]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: snoboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Roper, I hear ya.I too am leary of the puking and any other issues associated with too much hp. I think the economy tune is like 30-40 hp, probably not alot of top end but it has instant throttle response and just a great allround feel. It's perfect for me cuz I'm not a tire burner or racer, heck I mostly drive about 2 under the speed limit but I never liked having to push the pedal wayyy down to get moving or hold speed on a hill. My truck always seemed to have more than enough air just not enough fuel (if that makes any sense). This tune seems to have a perfect combination and makes barely any more heat (if any)than stock. I may just get the jake brake added to this tune and never change.

snoboy </div></div>


What economy tune do you have? Mine from ID makes the truck about half as fast as stock. SLOOOOOW, definitely less HP than stock. Takes a LOT of throttle to get moving at any decent rate. I perfer the higher HP tunes for daily driving. As long as you're not mashing the throttle everywhere they're pretty street friendly.

[snoboy]

DJs economy. Saaweeet. Way more takeoff/launch than stock.

[tbsimmons]

I just use the street or tow tunes tunes. They are fine, better MPG and also can still hook up to the trailer and take off without switching the tunes.