Edge Platinum w/supposed level 6 or ID SCT new latest Race extreme tune - Diesel Forum

Jassman · 11-23-2005, 06:30 AM

Just picked up my 06 F250. I have read the shoot-out, great reading. I have owned both on my 04 and 05 F350 dually's. Loved the Edge for its flexability but shifts were less than perfect on levels 4 and 5, but Im assuming that was the old version in 04. My 05 had the ID SCT, awesome power, shifted somewhat funny between 3 and 4 in highest tune when driving normal, but very acceptable, on full throttle shifted crisp and flat out ran. Both of these Im sure have improved, which is now better, wanting to buy before the holiday, Thanks Jeff

Jassman · 11-23-2005, 07:38 AM

Where's the feedback [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img]

DALPilot · 11-23-2005, 08:09 AM

Well the SCT definetly controls the tranny, and lays down more power, and the new tune Definetly lays down some serious HP. Just my .02

CBSUPERDUTY · 11-23-2005, 11:04 AM

Remember... There was a reason you left Edge... The new version may be better but it still doesn't plug into the trans... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

Jassman · 11-23-2005, 11:25 AM

I had 6 (construction)Edges/trucks lost them in Katrina. Most of the time they are in Level 1 or 2. I love the flexability, and just want to know how much more if any has the Edge improved with the new Platinum. The SCT has proven itself but not adjustable. I dont like how much louder it is over stock, and had problems with drivability with their PI tune, maybe thats been cleared up as well. Feedback is important, I want to order today from a vendor. Thanks Jeff

David6 · 11-23-2005, 11:51 AM

I have had my Edge Platinum for over a month now and I really do like it.I doubt it produces the power the SCT custom tunes do,but I have the Hot juice upgrade and I would bet it more than enough power for what you want to do.
You can change shift firmness with the Platinum and power levels at the touch of a button.I'm not a big fan of the defuel settings at shifting so I have mine set to 0% with shifts on firm always and it shifts very firm.
Check out Edge's website for full details.

gos · 11-23-2005, 12:38 PM

JASSMAN,

Depends on which part # Juice and Attitude's you were running. If you had the EJF1000WAM's, they tend to produce more power then the EJF2000WAM's. The power on the Platinum is the same as the EJF2000WAM, from there it is night and day. The shifting on a Platinum is consistent and firm, the shut down timer is flawless (time or temp), the rest of the safety features are certainly worth it as well. JS.

redneckmba · 11-23-2005, 01:12 PM

I installed an Edge this weekend and I really like it. I drive on the #3 setting. The Edge product gives you a lot of flexibility to set-up the tuning to the way you drive and for your needs.

I don't have any experience with any other product for the 6.0L so I can't compare.

Red

shiftkx · 11-24-2005, 08:02 AM

i have heard both good n bad on sct and edge's old model. tunes not going good with all flashes n old edge distroying the trans. but the new platinum hands down , you cant get better then having about 20 different features to watch on the monitor.. and being able to adjust your power , and smoke and shifting pattern id say go with edge.

Mark Craig · 11-29-2005, 03:47 PM

JASSMAN,

The Platinum is the new sales leader as it makes more than enough power for 99% of the market, has all the safety features, lets you adjust the tranny to shift like you want, not how some programmer wants or thinks, has the full gauge package and the bonus of the turbo timer as well. Hard to beat for the dollars spent. We also have the overhead and A pillar mounts fo the Attitude that makes it look like a stock option. Give us a call if you want and we'll help you with questions etc.

Mark @ DPPI

VegasSuperDuty · 11-29-2005, 03:56 PM

Jassman,

Please consider this quote from VIC or Jim (whichever you prefer):

"In short, an inline device is very primitive compared to a tuner.
The inline device can not rewrite logic, it can only "fool" logic.
As a result, boost curves only receive incidental changes, not deliberate changes.
Fueling and injector timing is raised with simple math, not complete remapping, hence the lag during tip in/tip out and excessive smoke on high HP settings.

With an inline device, you are fighting the logic of the PCM at all times, and not getting anywhere near the precise control (and low EGT's and potential fuel mileage) you get with a programmer.

Lets not even get into the shifting!"

munchie · 11-29-2005, 07:31 PM

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Jassman,

Please consider this quote from VIC or Jim (whichever you prefer):

"In short, an inline device is very primitive compared to a tuner.
The inline device can not rewrite logic, it can only "fool" logic.
As a result, boost curves only receive incidental changes, not deliberate changes.
Fueling and injector timing is raised with simple math, not complete remapping, hence the lag during tip in/tip out and excessive smoke on high HP settings.

With an inline device, you are fighting the logic of the PCM at all times, and not getting anywhere near the precise control (and low EGT's and potential fuel mileage) you get with a programmer.

Lets not even get into the shifting!"

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why be stuck with one tune!! i got 6 levels on the fly. everthing on the fly. i want to make 2-3 shift harder can do it while driving. i can change my options everyday with ease no 10 min reprogram. and my truck put down 431hp to the rear wheels in level 5.on a dyno and avarge of 5 pulls. waiting for level 6 code

StuartV · 11-30-2005, 10:34 AM

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We also have the overhead and A pillar mounts fo the Attitude that makes it look like a stock option.

Mark @ DPPI

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Got any pictures of what those look like installed?

VegasSuperDuty · 11-30-2005, 01:04 PM

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Jassman,

Please consider this quote from VIC or Jim (whichever you prefer):

"In short, an inline device is very primitive compared to a tuner.
The inline device can not rewrite logic, it can only "fool" logic.
As a result, boost curves only receive incidental changes, not deliberate changes.
Fueling and injector timing is raised with simple math, not complete remapping, hence the lag during tip in/tip out and excessive smoke on high HP settings.

With an inline device, you are fighting the logic of the PCM at all times, and not getting anywhere near the precise control (and low EGT's and potential fuel mileage) you get with a programmer.

Lets not even get into the shifting!"

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why be stuck with one tune!! i got 6 levels on the fly. everthing on the fly. i want to make 2-3 shift harder can do it while driving. i can change my options everyday with ease no 10 min reprogram. and my truck put down 431hp to the rear wheels in level 5.on a dyno and avarge of 5 pulls. waiting for level 6 code

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Thats great! My adjustability is under my right foot. I have ran several boxes in the past and never changed the power levels unless towing.

This is what I had to do because of using a "box":

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I now prefer the tuners that actually can program the TCM. Any "box" that says "defuel" in their features says that because they have to defuel to fake out the TCM into shifting. There is a right way and a half @$$ way and "boxes" do it half @$$.

Mark

StuartV · 11-30-2005, 01:41 PM

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Any "box" that says "defuel" in their features says that because they have to defuel to fake out the TCM into shifting. There is a right way and a half @$$ way and "boxes" do it half @$$.

Mark

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So you're saying that automatically defueling to keep EGTs from exceeding some specified number is a useless feature and just marketing BS?