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Old 07-04-2006, 09:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Electric fan for stop & go city driving on 6.0 to help cool trans & air

In city slow and stop and go driving is the only time I see my trans temp go up towing or solo and my air cools less at that time only. I was thinking of putting a slim line elec. auxiliary cooling fan on with a toggle switch. I was thinking this should help the trans & intercooler & air run cooler in stop and go city driving. I see JCW. has a 16 inch elec. fan for about $99 . Has this worked good for anyone else on the 6.0
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i think its a great idea as a boost fan. Put it in the front directly on the ac condenser. Try and mount it as low on the condeser as possible. you might need to trim the frame that holds the headlights and everything i think its fiberglass or something. I would wire a relay for it to come on with the ac and put a manual overide switch so you can shut it off when moving at highway speeds if its not needed. You might want to check out spal fans www.racerpartswholesale.com carrys them they might cost a little more but they are of higher quality.
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I'm going to do this on my 1997 F250 also. On mine I'm going to use a trigger off the idle switch on the pedal. So when I'm in town and at a light ( foot off the pedal ) the fans will run. As soon as the pedal is pressed and I start moving the fans will shut off.
Do the 6.0L's have a similar switch on the pedal assembly?
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I'm going to do this on my 1997 F250 also. On mine I'm going to use a trigger off the idle switch on the pedal. So when I'm in town and at a light ( foot off the pedal ) the fans will run. As soon as the pedal is pressed and I start moving the fans will shut off.
Do the 6.0L's have a similar switch on the pedal assembly?

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Yes sir. I believe it's the same signal used for detecting if it's ok to raise the idle for AIC operation.

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I'm watching this thread. Let us know how it turns out. I want to do this mod.
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Ok, where's the cooling guy for this one?? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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what cooling guy?
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On the 6L with the Visctronic fan drive, which looks to coolant temp, intake manifold temp, AC demand, and ATF temp for inputs, I would consider the addition of an electric fan somewhat superfluous unless you're doing lots of low-vehicle-speed/low-engine-speed stuff under load, such as backing heavy trailers up steep grades or rockcrawling your 7000-lb SuperDuty where normally only tube-buggies go. If that's your normal duty-cycle, add the electric. If you only do that sort of thing with a frequency ranging from never to once or twice a year, don't worry about it too much.

Or if you have lots of chip on it and are thus exceeding the factory operating parameters (more power = more heat).
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all I know is our truck has never had cold A/C unless you're moving or it's night time. Maybe there is something wrong with out fan drive. I've only heard it come on once in 38k miles.

I'm gonna install a pair of fans on the condensor. Tired of my wife telling me how much better my truck cools off over hers.

I'll post up the results if it's good or bad
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Brian, are you saying your 6.0 doesn't get cold? Could this be the issue
http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?...amp;ProdID=473

I looked under my hood and my truck has this valve and my AC gets real cold.
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snoboy .... yea that might help. Not sure if mine has that or not. Wonder if it works with climate control systems??

Anyway ... I'm pretty sure ours is just a air flow issue. If you idle in traffic it's ok but not COLD ... as soon as you move 200' at about 20-30 mph you can feel the temp drop significantly. My pressures are good when the ambient temp is lower.

I'm in FL and when it's 90-98 here and 90% humidity it's hard on A/C's

Thanks for the tip though
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If you guys can hold off for a few months there will be 2 new fans on the market.
14" and 17" that are narrow in depth approx 2 5/8" which would fit behind the grill with out much trimming, if any, and they have a much higher cfm around 2000-2400 from what I was told.
When I get more info, I`ll pass it on.
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I'd be interested in knowning what their *as-installed* CFM and delta P ratings are. Free-air CFM means exactly nothing.
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I'd be interested in knowning what their *as-installed* CFM and delta P ratings are. Free-air CFM means exactly nothing.

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There is a good chance I will get them to test before they go on the market,possibly as soon as 1 or 2 weeks from now.
But I won`t know for sure until I have one or both to install,to give them feedback before they offer the fans for sale.
If and when this happens I will pass the info on.
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