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Old 08-04-2008, 11:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How too make my baby billow black sunshine

Ok, Im new to the forum and didnt want to bother anyone by asking a question but i could find any previous posts about how to get my 06 6.0 to billow out black smoke. What kind of upgrades can i do to get this? Im 20 and this is my first of hopfully many diesel trucks; so im new to the engine upgrades and would greatly appreciate any help. Im kind of on a budget because construction is so slow but would love to hear any suggestions of what i should or can do to achive the smoke. Thanks again
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Old 08-05-2008, 02:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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get familiar with that search button, its kinda like DVR for a forum
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Black smoke is all for show. Your next post after you are done smoking will be complaining about your mileage. Why not add some fuzzy dice and stick-on chrome vents while you are at it?

Save up the bucks for an turbo-back exhaust and SCT. THEN start thinking about some smoke....
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Save up the bucks for an turbo-back exhaust and SCT. THEN start thinking about some smoke....
Yea... turbo back exhaust, tuner set on extreme (SCT or edge etc...), nice exhaust, and then you need ALOT of money for fuel and new tires. I can billiow black smoke when I romp on the accelerator from a standstill, or especially when doing a burnout and the truck doesnt move. Once you get going fast you won't see smoke because it disperses too fast. You definitely need dual exhaust to ensure smoke is blown in both directions lol. Most guys you see on videos blowing smoke have also removed their cat and muffler, and possibly egr... and those mods are not legal in many places. Keep in mind that your truck breathes its own exhaust so blowing tonnes of smoke will soot up your egr, turbo, and exhaust etc faster. And also, blowing black smoke happens more often if your engine is breaking, so even though you may think it looks cool (I wont lie, I do too hehe), but many others will just think your truck is dying. You will blow smoke if you have a tuner, intake and exhaust, and then are really heavy on the accelerator... but you will get TERRIBLE mpg, and people with broken trucks will always blow more smoke than you.

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If you are really into black smoke you will have to get an older diesel. Best would be a N/A with the fuel pump turned way up. The 6.0's aren't built to smoke and with my truck tuned all they way up it barely puts out black smoke at WOT. I used to get my 97 7.3 to smoke some when it was tuned up at lower RPM's but once the turbo caught up the smoke would go away. Any trucks you see on videos blowing smoke are just waisting fuel. At $4.60 a gallon seems like a waiste to me
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hey i feel with the construction dude.. yah get an sct programmer from innovative tell him what u want and he will keep it safe for ur truck but with all the power. get an exhaust and i an intake. with my bully dog tripple dog power pup i barely push the gas and i blow smoke everywhere!! hope construction picks up soon. but the more foreclosures and all this its not guna happen anytime soon.
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if you really feel the need to smoke why not mount an injector in the exaust after the turbo and inject some used oil. then you will have all the smoke you want (might be white though) and you get to spray oil mist all over the windows of everyone around. that will stick to them a lot longer than a black cloud, and gets rid of your used oil at same time
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Red face Thanks guys

Thanks for the info. I did use that search button and yeah your right. I love the way they look blowin out the smoke when the trucks are pulllin those tractors... But i dont want to make the trucks look bad when im driving around town. And I dont want poor milage but im sure that only when your on it right? With all the hopups the trucks get better milage when driving it easy or am i wrong? Like i said im new and still learning about these trucks. Thanks for all the info. Id be happy with the preformance i get with the upgrades the smoke would just be a big plus.
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hey i feel with the construction dude.. yah get an sct programmer from innovative tell him what u want and he will keep it safe for ur truck but with all the power. get an exhaust and i an intake. with my bully dog tripple dog power pup i barely push the gas and i blow smoke everywhere!! hope construction picks up soon. but the more foreclosures and all this its not guna happen anytime soon.

Hey thanks and yeah ill look into that programmer. Id rather be safe that sorry. I took off the muffler along with the cat an ran straight turbo and had a big difference in take off( It was nice and loud). I need to just save up and get the mbrp system i want but thatll be later. Anyway a buddy of mine told me to put atleast the cat back on because the fords tend to over spin the turbo when its a straight pipe. Is this a real problem or is my friend just getting gas engines confused with diesel when it come to back pressure?
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I know someone with a 6.0 who has the edge juice w attitude. On the extreme setting he can pull along side someone at a light put the pedal to it and cover thier car in smoke. Once the turbo spools most of the smoke goes away. Better get head studs, even then, be prepared for engine work if you use the extreme setting very often!

If you want constant smoke, you'll probably need larger injectors with a tuner and leave the stock turbo on so it can't keep up. Too much fuel, not enough air result in an inefficient burn, which gives you smoke. Again on a 6.0 be prepared to do repairs.

The only reason you see dragsters smoke is that the extra bit of HP extracted by over fueling outways the concern for MPG and engine longevity.
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[quote=NBhunter80;1606110]Like he said...

Yea... turbo back exhaust, tuner set on extreme (SCT or edge etc...), nice exhaust, and then you need ALOT of money for fuel and new tires. I can billiow black smoke when I romp on the accelerator from a standstill, or especially when doing a burnout and the truck doesnt move. Once you get going fast you won't see smoke because it disperses too fast. You definitely need dual exhaust to ensure smoke is blown in both directions lol. Most guys you see on videos blowing smoke have also removed their cat and muffler, and possibly egr... and those mods are not legal in many places. Keep in mind that your truck breathes its own exhaust so blowing tonnes of smoke will soot up your egr, turbo, and exhaust etc faster. And also, blowing black smoke happens more often if your engine is breaking, so even though you may think it looks cool (I wont lie, I do too hehe), but many others will just think your truck is dying. You will blow smoke if you have a tuner, intake and exhaust, and then are really heavy on the accelerator... but you will get TERRIBLE mpg, and people with broken trucks will always blow more smoke than you.



Hey thanks. Yeah i dont mind if my truck may look like its braking as long as it not. But for up grade ive read here many people are against the arfter market inakes because the trucks vacumm suck all the filter oil down and that cant be good. Other posted the stock intake is good up to 500hp.
If i got a programmer, exhaust, and injectors could i get close to that hp?
Ive also heard about stacking programmers/tuners would you recommend this?
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Just my two cents - you mention that you are new to diesels and 'on a budget' so take your time and learn, start with a new exhaust and work your way up.

I just have visions of you throwing $$$$ into programmers, intakes, yada yada and then the shock of what its going to cost you for blown heads, turbo, tranny etc.

... but as long as you realize that "if you play, be prepared to pay" then you will have nobody to blame but yourself.

Welcome to the world of diesels and good luck.
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yah i love my bullydog programmer and its great now... i get plent of smoke mpg isnt bad 14 and power is great.. it very reliable. i put into the truck new and havent had one problems excpet about 20,000 miles ago the head gaskets went out. other then that is been great. i get plent of smoke at the perfromance level and barely put the truck on extreme. but when i do man it fly and smokes like crazy. but if u go above a tuner exhaust intake and bigger turbo go into getting some head studs!! then u will be safe.
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Intaake and exhaust is probibly the best place to start. after that you can program it and be "somewhat" safe. Also, if your going to program it an EGT gauge is very important. Definatly investing in a set of ARP head studs when your gasket goes is a safe bet to prevent future incedents. Those stock ones on the 6.0 wont hold. Ive got an 06 6.0 and its only a matter of time... They tend to stretch which is what causes the gasket to go. smoke is cool but with those high diesel prices...5.45 in my area, all I see is $$$$$ blowing out the tailpipe. and by the way, no one thinks its cool exept other diesel drivers...Ive got a programmer in mine and leaving it on lower settings ive seen 16 consistantly around town driving and 22 on the highway @ 60 mph.
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I could blanket 3 lanes of traffic if i put my foot down from a stop, but why waste the fuel? Its just for show.

Turbo back exhaust, SCT tuner, and a set of guages will give you smoke when you want it, decent sound, and at least let you monitor egt's.

Edit: Also, just for maintenance/costs, all that black smoke will contribute to sooting up your turbo and screwing up the veins, requiring you to either pull it to clean it or pay to have it done.
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