Introducing the Banks iQ Dashboard PC display system!! - Diesel Forum

bankspower · 10-26-2009, 03:31 PM

IT'S HERE!!! The all new Banks iQ display system! This is a total replacement for the PDA display and is the most advanced display of it's kind. It's a true 5 inch, touch screen, full color display. It's operating system is based on a Windows CE platform and has all the functionality of a PC computer. It's been in development here at Banks for the last 2 years.

Here's some ACTUAL screen shots:

bankspower · 10-26-2009, 03:35 PM

The system is designed to be completly updatable. Starting in early January you'll be able to control:

BankSpeed Nitrous injection systems
BankSpeed Water/meth injection systems
BankSpeed Propane/CNG injection systems
Custom tune your ECM using the BankSpeed tuning system

All it takes is a simple software update. There will also be a version released later this month that is a stand alone display. It will work on ANY car or truck 1996 and later. For the diesel apps you can also still and the contollers listed above as you see fit

lubbockguy1979 · 10-26-2009, 11:20 PM

So now that banks has a fancy display when will they start working on tranny controls? Or does this item flash the tcm? Is there any actual flash tuning? Will it tune the pcm and ficm? Or will this be like previous banks tuners that fool the computer? Will this address strategy specific tuning? Custom tuning? All the fancy gauges and dodads in the world don't make a product good. Heck I think of it as putting racing stripes a escort and trying to call it a sports car.

HeavyAssault · 10-27-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lubbockguy1979

So now that banks has a fancy display when will they start working on tranny controls? Or does this item flash the tcm? Is there any actual flash tuning? Will it tune the pcm and ficm? Or will this be like previous banks tuners that fool the computer? Will this address strategy specific tuning? Custom tuning? All the fancy gauges and dodads in the world don't make a product good. Heck I think of it as putting racing stripes a escort and trying to call it a sports car.

Talk about coming out swinging. It's all true though....

bankspower · 10-27-2009, 10:39 AM

Lets see here:

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Originally Posted by lubbockguy1979

So now that banks has a fancy display when will they start working on tranny controls? If your reffering to the race system, yes the trans control will be built in and adjustable by the user. Or does this item flash the tcm? It will depend on the final race version, it may flash the tcm or it may use a hardware bridge to do it. It will depend on what's eaiser to tune with. All software changes will be done through the iQ reguardless. Is there any actual flash tuning? The race system will, the tow version won't. The tow version (for use with the Economind and Six Gun tuners) can be upgraded at any time with a software change. Will it tune the pcm and ficm? Or will this be like previous banks tuners that fool the computer? The iQ is compatible with both allowing you to stack the harness tuner with a custom file as well. The final race version isn't slated for release until early next year and the system will no doubt go through several changes before it gets released. Will this address strategy specific tuning? Custom tuning? See above All the fancy gauges and dodads in the world don't make a product good. It's far FAR more then just "fancy gauges", unless you know of any other display system that will do custom tuning, harness tuning control, SpeedBrake control, nitrous control, water meth control, cng/propane control, full gauge display of all engine parameters available, GPS, wirless internet, and full PC/laptop capability Heck I think of it as putting racing stripes a escort and trying to call it a sports car. If you choose to put stripes on your escort that's your deal

The Banks Speed brake is also due for release in about 3 weeks and the iQ will control that as well. The system is similar to our Speed Brake for the Chevy applications as well.
Good luck with your escort

**bigb** · 10-27-2009, 01:57 PM

Will it be over $50?

bankspower · 10-27-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bigb

Will it be over $50?

The stand alone version (gauges only) runs around $500 or so. The price goes up depending on the upgrades you add to it

powerstrokecrzy · 10-27-2009, 05:05 PM

With the release of the IQ, will the PDA still be avaliable. Was looking at it as a b-day present to me first of next year. Have the six gun already with the dial. Wanting to add the PDA. I understand what the IQ will be capable of but 90% of it i prob wont use. As in sinking hundreds or thousands of dollars into custom tunes and updates and whatever else. AND, will the PDA get any cheaper with the IQ release.

bankspower · 10-27-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by powerstrokecrzy

With the release of the IQ, will the PDA still be avaliable. Was looking at it as a b-day present to me first of next year. Have the six gun already with the dial. Wanting to add the PDA. I understand what the IQ will be capable of but 90% of it i prob wont use. As in sinking hundreds or thousands of dollars into custom tunes and updates and whatever else. AND, will the PDA get any cheaper with the IQ release.

The PDA has been discontinued by Palm. So the only PDA's available are referbished (used). I can get you one if you need it though but there's no warranty on it. The iQ is only $7 more then the PDA/docking station was anyway so you're much better off getting the iQ. Here's some info on the speed brake we're about to release for the 6.0L, granted this is a tester talking about his 6.4L but the function of the two is EXACTLY the same:
Exhaust Brake for 6.4L

lubbockguy1979 · 10-27-2009, 08:43 PM

I will say it sounds impressive compared to past banks products. The only flaw I see it that you chose to not address all of the tuning for the lowly working class that use their trucks for work ie towing. Seems that they would benifit from everything that the race version has. As for the race setup what is the projected price range? Seems the dashdaq used in the phalanx tuning it pretty close to what you are offering in the race trim.

blizzardwarrior7 · 10-30-2009, 01:31 AM

Doesnt really impress me...Seems there are plenty of other similar systems out there....I'd love to see banks release a race program that can compete with SCT. Still seems like its going to be way overpriced.... Most people that have methanol/nitrous injections are already going to have a favored method of control as well, I know I do. And, I wasnt impressed with the Banks exhaust brake, does this improve the function of it or no? Are all the engine parameters monitored using the factory sensors?

bankspower · 10-30-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lubbockguy1979

I will say it sounds impressive compared to past banks products. The only flaw I see it that you chose to not address all of the tuning for the lowly working class that use their trucks for work ie towing. The end user can use the custome tuning option if they want to for towing. We just don't reccommend it unless you really know what you're doing. Seems that they would benifit from everything that the race version has. Again, the tow version can be upgraded to a race version with a software update. As for the race setup what is the projected price range? Don't know yet as we're still a few months away from the release on the race system. The PDA replacement system runs $598 Seems the dashdaq used in the phalanx tuning it pretty close to what you are offering in the race trim.

Not quite, the dash daq has nowhere near the capability the iQ has. For example, in race trim, the iQ is capable of tuning the truck, contolling the nitrous curve, a propane injection system, and water meth system all at the same time. As far as the display itself goes:

bankspower · 10-30-2009, 12:00 PM

Let's see here:

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Originally Posted by blizzardwarrior7

Doesnt really impress me...Seems there are plenty of other similar systems out there Please feel free to name just 1 that can tune the engine, control a nitrous system, an exhaust brake, a water/meth system, a propane system, has built in gps and full lap top capability?....I'd love to see banks release a race program that can compete with SCT. The custom tuning option is up to you. The we'll give you a baseline the rest is up to you. Still seems like its going to be way overpriced Based on what exactly? You know of another display that can do all this and costs under $600? Please share.... Most people that have methanol/nitrous injections are already going to have a favored method of control as well, I know I do. And i will guarentee you it has nowhere near the control this system has. For example having the display control all the aftermarket injection system allows you to tune the engine AND the nitrous/water/propane in concert with each other rather then just "on here and off there". Futher the system allows almost endless injection rates (for all of them) over the ENTIRE rpm range. And, I wasnt impressed with the Banks exhaust brake, does this improve the function of it or no? How can you possibly even have an opinion on something that hasn't even come out yet? The Speed brake for the 6.0L doesn't come out for another 3 weeks. Are all the engine parameters monitored using the factory sensors? Yes, or with the standalone analog system that will be released shortly.

Further all of the injection control systems are going to be based on the nitrous control system we use on our S-10 drag truck.

blizzardwarrior7 · 10-31-2009, 11:24 AM

Ive had experience with the banks exhaust brake on a dodge. And it was junk. I didnt say I had experience with it on my Ford. Dont assume.

In your previos post, you said that the custom tuning left it up to you. But you also mentioned earlier that you dont reccomend people play with it unless they know what they are doing. Shouldnt you offer custom tuning than? Seems stupid that you would tell people to try to custom tune it, and risk them messing something up.

As for the stock sensors, are they as accurate as aftermarket ones?

As far as the screen size goes. Just because the screen is 1/2" bigger doesnt mean a thing. Too big of a screen will make it an akward obstruction to your view of the road. And, it doesnt mean that it will have less glare, or better clarity than any other screen. Sorry if I sound like Im argueing, Im just doubtful, because my previous experience with banks products has been dissappointing at best.

lubbockguy1979 · 10-31-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bankspower

in race trim, the iQ is capable of tuning the truck, contolling the nitrous curve, a propane injection system, and water meth system [B][I]all at the same time.

Sound great... Who builds the 6.0 that can handle a hot tune, nitrous, propane and water/water meth? What kind of hp/tq will this race tuning provide? So is this new tuner a diy for writing tunes? I assume given that it controls all above you will be able to work a nonvgt turbo. Possibly a compound setup larger injectors a different cam etc? How much will tunes cost if the end user dosent have to write them. How many different companys will be permitted to write tuning? When will we be able to see how this system will work? Banks is famous in my eyes for hype... Raced a lot of banks power 6.0 trucks they are a joke.