Introducing the Banks iQ Dashboard PC display system!!

[lubbockguy1979]

Is the tuner going to offer shift on the fly?

[bankspower]

Originally Posted by lubbockguy1979

Is the tuner going to offer shift on the fly?

If you have the flash only system no, if you stack it with a six gun yes.

[bankspower]

Lets see here:

Originally Posted by blizzardwarrior7

Ive had experience with the banks exhaust brake on a dodge. And it was junk. A brake that has no relation to a 6.0L speed brake that has completly different function, operation and capabilitys I didnt say I had experience with it on my Ford. Dont assume. It's a little hard not to considering this is a FORD forum on a 6.0L engine and you didn't specify it was a dodge brake you were talking about, unless this was just another thinly veild attempt to take a shot at us.

In your previos post, you said that the custom tuning left it up to you. But you also mentioned earlier that you dont reccomend people play with it unless they know what they are doing. Shouldnt you offer custom tuning than? Seems stupid that you would tell people to try to custom tune it, and risk them messing something up. A custom tune can only truly be done with the truck on the dyno by sombody with experience. We're going to give you the ability to tune and tweak your engine on your own and not just our "best guess". If you don't have the ability to tune the engine we don't reccommend you start messing with something you know nothing about.

As for the stock sensors, are they as accurate as aftermarket ones?
They're good enough for Ford and the Ford computer, but the analog bridge will be seperate from the ecm.

As far as the screen size goes. Just because the screen is 1/2" bigger doesnt mean a thing. It's not a half inch bigger, it's a full 41% bigger. The picture above is to scale to show that while our overall size is only 1/2 inch larger our screen is 41% bigger. Too big of a screen will make it an akward obstruction to your view of the road. The overall size is only 1/2 inch larger then the dashdaq but the screen is far larger. And, it doesnt mean that it will have less glare, or better clarity than any other screen. Actually yes it does. Try focusing on something the size of a pea at arms length while driving. That's what it's like looking at the dash daq screen. as we have a much larger screen with far better resolution it would be like looking at something the size of a dime at the same distance. Sorry if I sound like Im argueing, Im just doubtful, because my previous experience with banks products has been dissappointing at best. After seeing your post history reguarding our stuff I'm not surprised.

[bankspower]

Let's see here:

Originally Posted by lubbockguy1979

Sound great... Who builds the 6.0 that can handle a hot tune, nitrous, propane and water/water meth? If your intention is to use these types of products you had better plan accordingly. They are for built engines and experienced users only but allows the entry level user upgrade it as they need to. What kind of hp/tq will this race tuning provide? We leave the tuning in your hands, so that's up to you. So is this new tuner a diy for writing tunes? Yes I assume given that it controls all above you will be able to work a nonvgt turbo. That's correct Gale wants this to operate any system that can be computer controlled. Possibly a compound setup larger injectors a different cam etc? See above. How much will tunes cost if the end user dosent have to write them. Hasn't been released yet so I don't know yet How many different companys will be permitted to write tuning? None. The tuning will be stored in the iQ and it won't be an "open" system. You can do all the tuning you like directly in the iQ, no laptop will be needed. If you choose to share your settings feel free. When will we be able to see how this system will work? See the post above (again). Banks is famous in my eyes for hype... Raced a lot of banks power 6.0 trucks they are a joke. This system will change all that

[bankspower]

More pictures compared to the old PDA:

[bankspower]

[blizzardwarrior7]

My post history? LOL.

When I see people that have had experience with SCT, and are still sticking with banks, maybe Ill change my tune. Ive not seen ONE truck with banks equipment that can outdo even a truck with edge tuning, much less any truck with custom tunes.

If the average user cant really create their own tuning how would they get custom tunes? Would they be able to get them? As lubbock guy said, I dont know anyone with a 6.0 thats running nitrous/hot tune/ and anything else, that still has a truck to talk about.

Also the starting price is $500? What else is their that would add to the price? Does it include several tunes? Or do you have to pay for them? Will you be able to store MP3s on it? Does banks offer support for the GPS?

Honestly, I dont know anyone that really knows diesels that uses banks, and on top of that, I cant count how many times Ive heard people complain about having to flip through 5 pages of banks ads in the beginning of diesel power just to get to the good stuff, what a PITA!

[SickStroke6.0]

does the EGT probe come with the $500 base model or do you have to add it?

[lubbockguy1979]

First if the tuning is the best why would need or want to stack it? That implies to me that it is not as great as one would imagine. A sct can completely run the pcm and tcm with out stacking. The phalanx can tune everything tcm, pcm, ficm.... Next if you offer shift on the fly then evidently you have thrown out trans tuning. Of course you can potentially flash tune the trans then use shift on the fly but with out specific tcm flashes for the tuning it is all but worthless. If you are not planning on having custom tune writers such at sct, and spartan do. Then how are you planning to stay competative? Heck the sct wouldn't be nearly as popular or as capible of a tuner if it wasn't for variety there are a few that have truly pushed that tuning platform to where it is today. Third this you have the ability to write you own files but we don't reccomend you do it stance. Sounds pretty chicken scratch. While yes in the true sense of the custom tuning that is be live tuned but given the complexities it can be difficult. I do know that almost all the vendors do offer live tuning if they have a event set up if you schedule time with them at the shop. Last time I checked the only people that claim banks to be the best were gale him self, the people that work and sell their products and lastly the unsuspecting newbie diesel enthusiast. Hopefully this will come closer to being a good bang for their buck. You seem to have a awnser for every question as do all the banks people supporting a product. It should be interesting to see this new device in person. I'd love to see that guys look when all he see's is smoke and tail lights.

[bankspower]

Let's see here:

Originally Posted by blizzardwarrior7

My post history? LOL. Yes, you know, the posts you've made in the past? It's quite easily looked up by anybody in here and every one is clearly just "Banks sucks" and not much else. Which is why it doesn't surprise me you're in here trying to take shots at a new system you know nothing about, which is also quite obvious from the posts you've made in this very thread. Is it clear to you now?

When I see people that have had experience with SCT, and are still sticking with banks, maybe Ill change my tune. Ive not seen ONE truck with banks equipment that can outdo even a truck with edge tuning, much less any truck with custom tunes. And not one of them was equipped with the new Race system which will allow the end user to take his/her tuning in the direction they want to on their own. So exactly what's the point of this statment? Other then just, again, trying to take a shot at us?

If the average user cant really create their own tuning how would they get custom tunes? They follow the instructions. Would they be able to get them? They alter and tweak the baseline tune on their own. Is this part not very clear to you? As lubbock guy said, I dont know anyone with a 6.0 thats running nitrous/hot tune/ and anything else, that still has a truck to talk about. I thought you said in the post above that "Most people that have methanol/nitrous injections are already going to have a favored method of control as well, I know I do." Or did you forget you said that?

Also the starting price is $500? What else is their that would add to the price? The system isn't out yet so I have no idea what the price would be yet (please feel free to re-read the posts above...again) Does it include several tunes? Or do you have to pay for them?Why would we charge you for something you tweak ON YOUR OWN? Will you be able to store MP3s on it? MP3 files, video files (all windows compatible types), excell files, wirless internet access, word documents, spread sheets, PDF files and the GPS reciver is built in. Does banks offer support for the GPS? We're going to be offering a GPS software upgrade shortly but the end user can use ANY lap top or pocket PC gps setup if they want to instead.

Honestly, I dont know anyone that really knows diesels that uses banks, That's why we developed this system, there is no system on the market that's as capable as the Banks iQ. NONE. and on top of that, I cant count how many times Ive heard people complain about having to flip through 5 pages of banks ads in the beginning of diesel power just to get to the good stuff, what a PITA! It's really that hard for you to turn the page?

And we're all still waiting for you to name just 1 display that can do everything this iQ can. Remember from post #11 where you said "Seems there are plenty of other similar systems out there".

[bankspower]

Let's see here:

Originally Posted by lubbockguy1979

First if the tuning is the best why would need or want to stack it? That implies to me that it is not as great as one would imagine. You seem to be trying to put words in my mouth here. Try re-reading the statment again. I never said it HAD to be stacked at all. It CAN be stacked with our existing tuning systems so the customer doesn't have to get rid of parts they have already purchased. A sct can completely run the pcm and tcm with out stacking. The phalanx can tune everything tcm, pcm, ficm.... Next if you offer shift on the fly then evidently you have thrown out trans tuning. Of course you can potentially flash tune the trans then use shift on the fly but with out specific tcm flashes for the tuning it is all but worthless. That would depend on the method you're using. This system is fully capable of doing ALL aspects of both flash system and harness systems TOGETHER. If you are not planning on having custom tune writers such at sct, and spartan do. Why pay sombody els for something the customer can do on their own. The BankSpeed tuning system will be for users to tweak a BASELINE tune on their own, to suite their OWN needs, their OWN truck the way THEY want to. Then how are you planning to stay competative? Heck the sct wouldn't be nearly as popular or as capible of a tuner if it wasn't for variety there are a few that have truly pushed that tuning platform to where it is today. Third this you have the ability to write you own files but we don't reccomend you do it stance. I didn't say write tunes, I said tune and tweak a tune. This system will as Gale puts it "take all the black magic out of building a race system". No more taking it to a shop, no more having somebody who's never seen your truck e-mail a tune that may or may not work, no more having to wait. Just do it yourself. Sounds pretty chicken scratch. Feel free to re-read it again While yes in the true sense of the custom tuning that is be live tuned but given the complexities it can be difficult. We're going to fix all that I do know that almost all the vendors do offer live tuning if they have a event set up if you schedule time with them at the shop. That can be somewhat difficult if somebodys on the other side ofthe country or can't attend isn't it? Last time I checked the only people that claim banks to be the best were gale him self, the people that work and sell their products and lastly the unsuspecting newbie diesel enthusiast. I think we finally see your intent with posts like this one, you're not actually truing to learn about a new product, you're just trying to piss all over it (and it's not even out yet). I really don't mind though, the more posts you make the more I can prove you're wrong Hopefully this will come closer to being a good bang for their buck. You seem to have a awnser for every question as do all the banks people supporting a product. You seem to be overlooking how long this has been in development. It should be interesting to see this new device in person. I'd love to see that guys look when all he see's is smoke and tail lights. You remember you said that

And in case you're wondering exactly WHERE the nitrous control and the baseline tuning system was developed it will come DIRECTLY off this project:
YouTube - Banks S-10: Final run of the day

[bankspower]

Here's a little quote from Gale Banks himself on the new BankSpeed line:

"I’m really excited to be rolling out our line of BankSpeed™ performance parts for racing. Our 50-year legacy of legendary Banks quality was built on our numerous speed accomplishments on the salt, on water, on road courses and, most recently, on dragstrips across the country. Our diesel-powered S-10 Sidewinder® drag truck runs CleanTune™ seven-second elapsed times with regularity. We don’t set records for the glory; we set them for the purpose of producing the most extreme high-performance parts for our customers’ own race vehicles.
The highly regarded Banks team of engineers designs products that will stand up to the rigors of racing. Our newest addition to the racing arsenal is the BankSpeed Tuner, which essentially puts an end to the black magic of diesel tuning. You don’t need an engineering degree to operate this ultra-compatible unit, which was designed for use at sanctioned racing events only. Heck, you don’t even need a laptop. I have opened the engineering vault here at Banks so that racers can own a piece of the record-setting capability for which the Banks name is known. Give these products a spin. You won’t be disappointed."

[bankspower]

Originally Posted by MacbooknMyTruck

does the EGT probe come with the $500 base model or do you have to add it?

That will depend on the truck it's going on to. For example the 6.4L already has one so the iQ can take the reading off that, on a 6.0L the thermocouple is extra as there isn't one on the truck stock.

[SickStroke6.0]

Originally Posted by bankspower

That will depend on the truck it's going on to. For example the 6.4L already has one so the iQ can take the reading off that, on a 6.0L the thermocouple is extra as there isn't one on the truck stock.

I'm going to be buying one for a 6.0l, how much extra would it be?

[lubbockguy1979]

do you even have a ford truck that runs at the track? watching a video of a duramax dosent do much for us ford guys. sure anyone can run a 8 sec or a 7 sec duramax. do it with a 6.0 keeping the "safe tuning with the stock egr in place and tty bolts. that would be impressive. how about a 6.4 with a dpf running 8 sec quaters. they took a light weight truck and ran a 8 sec quater. there are alot of guys running 10's in street legal daily drivent trucks. heck spartan has gotten a 7000#+ ford 6.4 into the 11 sec range. and that truck could pull your s10 and the trailer it rode in on home. im glad you have a new product. most of your products that have tuning involved are not as good as other offereings. i will give you credit that some not all but some of your hard parts are good and are worth the money. i wouldnt hesistate one bit to run a banks technicooler with the larger ic tubes. as for the tuning i just dont see you beating idp, spartan or rcd with your tuning or tuning devices for fords. they know their stuff and have done alot for the 6.0 and 6.4 crop. where i think you may have a great market is with the dodge crowd. they have alot of issues with tuning that are not a prevelant with the powerstroke and the duramax.