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hey guys whats your thoughts on a sct with caned tunes for towing a fifth wheel weighing13000lbs. iam seeking a little more power, not into racing i have full gauges and looking into getting a exhaust my truck is a 05 /350 6.0 srw 4x4. iam also getting a coolant filter kit as this will help from getting sand and grit into the egr and oil cooler .I figure i should do this now since the truck has only 32000 miles on it what your thoughts on this thanks tonysparks...
hey guys whats your thoughts on a sct with caned tunes for towing a fifth wheel weighing13000lbs. iam seeking a little more power, not into racing i have full gauges and looking into getting a exhaust my truck is a 05 /350 6.0 srw 4x4. iam also getting a coolant filter kit as this will help from getting sand and grit into the egr and oil cooler .I figure i should do this now since the truck has only 32000 miles on it what your thoughts on this thanks tonysparks...
Unless you have headstuds, don't tow that fifth with anything other than stock programming. You will pop your headgaskets if you do. Ask me how I know.....
The coolant filter is a very good idea and the sooner the better.
__________________ 2003 Toreador Red/Arizona Beige CC, DRW, Lariat, FX4, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, born early Feb. 03; AIC; Silverline turbo-back dual exhaust; 155cc injectors from Full Force Diesel (Casserly); SCT with tuning by Tony Wildman (Total Diesel Performance) & Innovative Diesel; ARP studs; Dfuser regulated return; AFE PG7; Fumoto valve; B&W hitch, Di-Pricol gauges; DIESELSITE Coolant filter; Timbrens; Rancho RSXs; Michelin XPS Traction's; a whole bunch of "bling"; Connex 4300hp; Pioneer DEH6100BT; JL Audio 275w amp driving a 12" sub; JL Audio 50wx4 amp driving the Alpine door and rear seat speakers. 380.3hp/786.7ft-lbs (on my tow tune!)
you can do it i would get custom tunes for it though. any 6.0 stock or tuned has a chance of blowing head gaskets. if you drive with some sense and knowing what can happen then you will probably be ok.
you can do it i would get custom tunes for it though.
I am going to disagree and do so based on experience. Mine blew towing a similar weight 5er with a custom 20hp tow tune. On top of that, almost all custom tuners will tell you not to tow anything near that weight with a tune. I wish I would have listened to them.
Bottom line is, the truck can tow that weight stock (although if it is typical of 5ers in that weight range, you are likely over the GAWR for your SRW). Granted, it won't be a hot rod, but then again, you shouldn't be racing with a 13K 5er behind you anyway. So unless you just want a reason to spend $3K-$4K on headgaskets/studs, I would strongly advise against towing it with a tune of any kind.
BTW, the typical boost/pyro/trans gauges do not have the capability to tell you when your headgaskets are about to blow. In fact, the only gauge capable of telling you that is a cylinder pressure gauge. So unless you have one of those (and I have not seen them on the market for your average joe), you can watch gauges all day and never know it is coming.....
__________________ 2003 Toreador Red/Arizona Beige CC, DRW, Lariat, FX4, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, born early Feb. 03; AIC; Silverline turbo-back dual exhaust; 155cc injectors from Full Force Diesel (Casserly); SCT with tuning by Tony Wildman (Total Diesel Performance) & Innovative Diesel; ARP studs; Dfuser regulated return; AFE PG7; Fumoto valve; B&W hitch, Di-Pricol gauges; DIESELSITE Coolant filter; Timbrens; Rancho RSXs; Michelin XPS Traction's; a whole bunch of "bling"; Connex 4300hp; Pioneer DEH6100BT; JL Audio 275w amp driving a 12" sub; JL Audio 50wx4 amp driving the Alpine door and rear seat speakers. 380.3hp/786.7ft-lbs (on my tow tune!)
hey thanks for the reply ill stay away from the tuner and just go as is thank u guys for being here and reading my posts because my truck runs fine and dont wat any issues with it
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I've towed and never had a issue. 5-20k. I run a heavy tow program and the truck runs a lot better. Like stated above a 6.0 can blow the gaskets or stretch the bolts stock. I will advise you this! If you tune or modify the truck no matter what you have even a cummins for petes sake. Be ready to pay. I run hot tunes and use my head. I have had no issues and my truck runs like a rapped ape. I am planning on getting headgaskets and studs as a prevenative. as I feel doing it when funds and time are avalible is a lot better then in a crunch.
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hey thanks for the reply ill stay away from the tuner and just go as is thank u guys for being here and reading my posts because my truck runs fine and dont wat any issues with it
i would chip it, blow the head gasgets, take off the chip and have ford replace under factory warranty. its seems like its not if they are going to go its when are they going to go. better under warranty then out of pocket. river city diesel has a great deal on the arp stud kit and black onyx head gaskets for like 699.00 so instead of paying close to 3grand you can get it done for under a grand... just had mine done about 5 months ago, didnt even take out the programmer and they had no problem fixing under warranty. check with your guy at the dealer, some have no trouble doing it because ford knows its a major issue with thier 6.0's.
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I am going to disagree and do so based on experience. Mine blew towing a similar weight 5er with a custom 20hp tow tune. On top of that, almost all custom tuners will tell you not to tow anything near that weight with a tune. I wish I would have listened to them.
Bottom line is, the truck can tow that weight stock (although if it is typical of 5ers in that weight range, you are likely over the GAWR for your SRW). Granted, it won't be a hot rod, but then again, you shouldn't be racing with a 13K 5er behind you anyway. So unless you just want a reason to spend $3K-$4K on headgaskets/studs, I would strongly advise against towing it with a tune of any kind.
BTW, the typical boost/pyro/trans gauges do not have the capability to tell you when your headgaskets are about to blow. In fact, the only gauge capable of telling you that is a cylinder pressure gauge. So unless you have one of those (and I have not seen them on the market for your average joe), you can watch gauges all day and never know it is coming.....
I understand what u are saying and the issue you had bad you have to remember that was you not everyone is gonna have the same failure rate. I will agree it can happen but it also may never happen drive like have some sense if it happens. O well you deal with sorry bout your luck then put studs and never worry about it again
I understand what u are saying and the issue you had bad you have to remember that was you not everyone is gonna have the same failure rate. I will agree it can happen but it also may never happen drive like have some sense if it happens.
Ummm, as others have stated, it can happen at stock power levels. It will happen if tuned and towing. The only question is how long will it take for this to happen. Believing otherwise is like sticking your head in the sand so you don't see your enemies. You don't have to believe me. Spend a little time and do a little research. You'll find tons of stories about towing tuned and blown gaskets. Most at weights far below the OP's or mine.
__________________ 2003 Toreador Red/Arizona Beige CC, DRW, Lariat, FX4, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, born early Feb. 03; AIC; Silverline turbo-back dual exhaust; 155cc injectors from Full Force Diesel (Casserly); SCT with tuning by Tony Wildman (Total Diesel Performance) & Innovative Diesel; ARP studs; Dfuser regulated return; AFE PG7; Fumoto valve; B&W hitch, Di-Pricol gauges; DIESELSITE Coolant filter; Timbrens; Rancho RSXs; Michelin XPS Traction's; a whole bunch of "bling"; Connex 4300hp; Pioneer DEH6100BT; JL Audio 275w amp driving a 12" sub; JL Audio 50wx4 amp driving the Alpine door and rear seat speakers. 380.3hp/786.7ft-lbs (on my tow tune!)
put the 4in exhaust on it. you will see lower temps towing, and a little more power. I would leave it stock as far as programing when towing and pray that it dosn't blow. That is what I have been doing and it has been good so far and I have about 90,000 miles on mine.
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Ummm, as others have stated, it can happen at stock power levels. It will happen if tuned and towing. The only question is how long will it take for this to happen. Believing otherwise is like sticking your head in the sand so you don't see your enemies. You don't have to believe me. Spend a little time and do a little research. You'll find tons of stories about towing tuned and blown gaskets. Most at weights far below the OP's or mine.
i hope you don't think i am trying to contridict you i'm not trying to be an a**. just stating a point that not every single 6.0 blows head gaskets. i have yet to blow mine at 119k. and i drive the s*** out it. if i was the OP i would call cale at BTS and talk to him over the phone and tell him your concerns and what you want to do. i have talked to him personally and his tunes are not hot enough that he says you need studs. even with his hot street tune. (or what ever it is called i forget)
i hope you don't think i am trying to contridict you i'm not trying to be an a**. just stating a point that not every single 6.0 blows head gaskets. i have yet to blow mine at 119k. and i drive the s*** out it. if i was the OP i would call cale at BTS and talk to him over the phone and tell him your concerns and what you want to do. i have talked to him personally and his tunes are not hot enough that he says you need studs. even with his hot street tune. (or what ever it is called i forget)
Cale does write some good tunes, there is no doubt about that.
__________________ 2003 Toreador Red/Arizona Beige CC, DRW, Lariat, FX4, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, born early Feb. 03; AIC; Silverline turbo-back dual exhaust; 155cc injectors from Full Force Diesel (Casserly); SCT with tuning by Tony Wildman (Total Diesel Performance) & Innovative Diesel; ARP studs; Dfuser regulated return; AFE PG7; Fumoto valve; B&W hitch, Di-Pricol gauges; DIESELSITE Coolant filter; Timbrens; Rancho RSXs; Michelin XPS Traction's; a whole bunch of "bling"; Connex 4300hp; Pioneer DEH6100BT; JL Audio 275w amp driving a 12" sub; JL Audio 50wx4 amp driving the Alpine door and rear seat speakers. 380.3hp/786.7ft-lbs (on my tow tune!)
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2003 Toreador Red/Arizona Beige CC, DRW, Lariat, FX4, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, born early Feb. 03; AIC; Silverline turbo-back dual exhaust; 155cc injectors from Full Force Diesel (Casserly); SCT with tuning by Tony Wildman (Total Diesel Performance) & Innovative Diesel; ARP studs; Dfuser regulated return; AFE PG7; Fumoto valve; B&W hitch, Di-Pricol gauges; DIESELSITE Coolant filter; Timbrens; Rancho RSXs; Michelin XPS Traction's; a whole bunch of "bling"; Connex 4300hp; Pioneer DEH6100BT; JL Audio 275w amp driving a 12" sub; JL Audio 50wx4 amp driving the Alpine door and rear seat speakers. 380.3hp/786.7ft-lbs (on my tow tune!)
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