Upgrades and Aftermarket - 6.0L EngineUpgrading and adding aftermarket equipment to your 2003-Up Super Duty or Excursion with 6.0L Power Stroke diesel engine. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.0L Power Stroke engine.
My truck doesnt seem to be making as much boost as it should and it lags way way bad from a dead stop with stock tune or with the edge turned up?Could this be an injector or turbo failure?
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2006 Ford F-250 Powerstrokestraight piped,Edge evolution and a leveling kit 2.5+1
Welcome to the 6.0 club! This is normal for the 6.0 Powerstroke. If you go from idle to full power at a stop the truck will act like it bogs for two to three seconds and then try to break the tires loose. It is the way the PCM is programed and the way the variable vane turbo is set up to build boost. Tuners or a programmer will help, and so will a freer flowing intake. In the mean time the best thing is to roll on the throttle and do not pull out into traffic and floor it with traffic close by.
well i hope ur righ but if i brake boost the truck leave the line at 10 11 pounds of boost on the edge it will shoot to 19 stick there kinda flutter a little bit.If you roll on it will slowly kind of creep to 25ish maybe 27ish shouldnt i have more boost then that on extream/race level on the edge?
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2006 Ford F-250 Powerstrokestraight piped,Edge evolution and a leveling kit 2.5+1
Last edited by ifitssmokinitsstrokin : 09-14-2008 at 02:20 PM.
The Edge uses timing and extra fuel to build power. Unlike a diesel with a standard turbocharger were extra fuel means exhaust volume and more boost, the 6.0 uses the variable vanes in the turbocharger to limit boost to what the program specifies. One thing about the VVT is that to limit boost it actually reduces back pressure and to build boost rapidly it increases backpressure. The demand for instant boost is what causes the lag in the truck as the back pressure buids rapidly to try to spool the turbocharger faster. As soon as the turbo spools the vanes open and release the excess pressure causing the sudden explosion of power. Some aftermarket tuners will allow the truck to build as much boost as you want, but it is hard on the head gaskets. It sounds like your truck acts close to the way mine does since 25 to 27 psi is all that I get on my truck.
well that makes me feel a little better that your edge will only let your truck build 27 too.Will a sct build more boost then 27 Im thinking of useing the edge for gauges and the sct for power Maybe a looney tune from sct see what that does!!
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2006 Ford F-250 Powerstrokestraight piped,Edge evolution and a leveling kit 2.5+1
If you you decide to use a custom tune (Looney or Innovative etc) you will be specifying what you want as far as power, shifting, pilot injection and so on. My understanding is that the custom tunes will build a little more boost and quite a bit more power. They will suggest a limit to help protect the engine and some of the other components, such as the plastic end tanks on the intercooler and prevent the hose ends from blowing off. They will also advise you of the other modifications that are available. Lots of owners have opted to use the Edge as a monitor setup and go to custom tunes. My suggestion is to go ahead and talk to the vendors about custom tunes and what you would like to do. They can answer your questions better than I and the consultation is free.
well that makes me feel a little better that your edge will only let your truck build 27 too.Will a sct build more boost then 27 Im thinking of useing the edge for gauges and the sct for power Maybe a looney tune from sct see what that does!!
I have SCT and when I put it on highest setting it still only goes to 27-28, no more. But you will not want to go past that with the stock head studs and such. You will blow the headgasket.
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07 F-350 xlt 6.0 PSD LB CC SRW 4x4, black on tan, A/T, 5" exhaust 4" downpipe, SCT livewire, S&B CAI, the rest is good from
ya i will have to talk to the vendors see whats best for me,I no about the weak head studs im going to put some arp heap studs in this winter hopefully just have elite diesel do it all for me along with some 190cc injectors and one of there turbosHow do u like your sct turned up on the higher levels?The edge is not real impressive to me at all.
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2006 Ford F-250 Powerstrokestraight piped,Edge evolution and a leveling kit 2.5+1
ya i will have to talk to the vendors see whats best for me,I no about the weak head studs im going to put some arp heap studs in this winter hopefully just have elite diesel do it all for me along with some 190cc injectors and one of there turbosHow do u like your sct turned up on the higher levels?The edge is not real impressive to me at all.
I don't think I could ask for much more. It makes my truck feel like a corvette. I don't have any costum tunes yet but would like to get some that are more adapted to my upgrades as well as fuel economy. Some day after the warranty is up I plan on doing head studs and maybe turbo upgrade so I can really poor the coals to it with very little worry.
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07 F-350 xlt 6.0 PSD LB CC SRW 4x4, black on tan, A/T, 5" exhaust 4" downpipe, SCT livewire, S&B CAI, the rest is good from
CORVETTE heck ya man thats what im talking about lol.Im going to buy a sct and try some custom tunes.How are your EGTs at wot with the sct on the higher levels?The edge runs higher then id like at wot,but the truck is in the shop right now it was smoking white in the morning and at idle im loseing no coolent,everyboby says injector or injectors what do u guy think?
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2006 Ford F-250 Powerstrokestraight piped,Edge evolution and a leveling kit 2.5+1
I don't really know my EGTs because I don't have a pyrometer. I just don't drive it hard to avoid problems until I can get that stuff. Again worried about warranty. Plus I have big 5 inch exhaust to help keep them down.
When I was researching SCT though I was told they are the best for keeping EGT's down. They claim lower then stock im most cases. I usually run my truck in the tow 65hp setting. That is more then enough power to keep my happy and keep the rubber on my tires
As for the smoke I think you should search some threads about the EGR cooler. I think I have read people having similar symptoms you are taking about with the EGR. Good luck with that!
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07 F-350 xlt 6.0 PSD LB CC SRW 4x4, black on tan, A/T, 5" exhaust 4" downpipe, SCT livewire, S&B CAI, the rest is good from
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I will have to buy me an sct tuner sounds like the way to go,it just seems like with the edge it really poors out the black smoke untill the turbo builds boost only on the extream power setting....is the sct the same way,dont get me wrong i dig the smoke but its a little out of hand on the highe levels of power
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2006 Ford F-250 Powerstrokestraight piped,Edge evolution and a leveling kit 2.5+1
Mine somkes but It's not out of hand. I have seen on this forum some threads of people saying they get some smoke. And just driving around town "normal" mine dosen't smoke at all no matter which tune I have it on. With my other upgrades I haven't seen much but of course at wide open throttle im going to smoke. I think it has some to do with how well the turbo builds boost off the line. I have hooked up my tuner to my buddy's 7.3 and it will some like a freight train off the line until the turbo catches up. Of course his won't build boost quick like mine.
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07 F-350 xlt 6.0 PSD LB CC SRW 4x4, black on tan, A/T, 5" exhaust 4" downpipe, SCT livewire, S&B CAI, the rest is good from
Part of the excessive smoke is caused by the altitude at Casper. My truck also smokes quite a bit since Albuquerque is also at 5200ft. when I take the truck to Texas the smoke is minimal, the EGT is much lower, and the lag is less. The custom tuned SCT will definately give you more power and probably a little less lag, but at that altitude expect some smoke.
The great thing about sct is custom tuning. you can calabrate for everything alltitude,trans shift points and the list goes on and on.as for the smoke it all in what you want full fuel at low boost and the thing will smoke like like a coal train. The white smoke is a dealer thing they have new updates for ecm and ficm.no problem there i think any custom tuner can fix this if im not misstakin.I have tried alot of different folks tunes around and they all perform different (hence the name custom tuning)I would never run a canned tune sct is the only way to go
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03 f-250 6.0 custom tunes sct
2 trips to the dealer ship to fix the same problem
got tired of wasted trips
fixed it my self ARP headstuds, EGR blockoff plate and guess what (no more problem !!!)
all work done by me
straight piped,Edge evolution and a leveling kit 2.5+1
How do u like your sct turned up on the higher levels?The edge is not real impressive to me at all.
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