Anybody running B100 in their PSD? I'm picking up a new to me 2000 PSD Excursion next week. I have the availability to buy B100 through where I work. It is currently about $2.00 a gallon and the manufacturer is claiming increased fuel economy and all of the usual green hype that goes with this type of fuel. I'm wondering if I will have any problems running this stuff?
Anybody running B100 in their PSD? I'm picking up a new to me 2000 PSD Excursion next week. I have the availability to buy B100 through where I work. It is currently about $2.00 a gallon and the manufacturer is claiming increased fuel economy and all of the usual green hype that goes with this type of fuel. I'm wondering if I will have any problems running this stuff?
First tank MIGHT loosen some gunk. My truck had no gunk in the tank. I guess it all depends on your tank. As to better mileage, it depends. I doubt that if you compare the best B100 with the best D2, you will find any gains. Even the Bio people will tell you that the stuff has less BTU than D2. In my case, even if I had gunk in the tank I am find because it will gunk up the filter which is external. In your case, it might be clogging up the in tank filter. However, $2 a gallon, assuming it doesn't drop your fuel mileage might be ok.
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Anybody running B100 in their PSD? I'm picking up a new to me 2000 PSD Excursion next week. I have the availability to buy B100 through where I work. It is currently about $2.00 a gallon and the manufacturer is claiming increased fuel economy and all of the usual green hype that goes with this type of fuel. I'm wondering if I will have any problems running this stuff?
As AK said, just keep a spare filter with you. I have never changed a filter outside of regular maintenance and had over 180,000 on diesel before switching to Bio. I have run over 80,000 miles on B100 or Bsomething depending on the temps.
I seriously doubt the claim of incfreased mileage. You will probably find a loss of about 1.5 MPG, depending of course on how you drive it. Your engine will sound quieter, run smoother and smell a whole lot better.
Norman
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97 F250 CC PS Tymar intake, 3" downpipe, 4" exhaust, turbo muffler installed backwards, 299,000 miles, running B100 when possible. "NEW 90 F450
I don't see how B100 can increase fuel mileage when it contains less BTU's.
I'd do some research on whether your truck's fuel o-rings and fuel lines can handle B100. Not expensive or time consuming to replace either.
I have a 2000 and I think my fuel tank is "plastic" lined, and there isn't any visible junk in the fuel tank. So I'm not worried about the solvent affects of B100.
B100 isn't going to do as well in colder climates.
For me, B5-B20 provides all the advantages and none of the disadvantages. Since I already replaced o-rings and fuel lines, I wouldn't have problems running B100 (except B100 is too expensive here).
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2000 F-250 7.3L Powerstroke. Build date 08/99.
I don't see how B100 can increase fuel mileage when it contains less BTU's.
I have a 2000 and I think my fuel tank is "plastic" lined, and there isn't any visible junk in the fuel tank. So I'm not worried about the solvent affects of B100.
B100 isn't going to do as well in colder climates.
For me, B5-B20 provides all the advantages and none of the disadvantages.
As I have mentioned before, if you compare apples to apples, you are correct. I tried diesel from Woodman's Grocery. On my 99 E300 I could get over 600 miles on a tank but with their diesel, I was struggling to make mid 500s. So, if you compare the best Bio with that, you will see mileage increase. OTOH, if you compare the best Bio with the best D2, I think you will see less mileage based on the lower BTU. I have tried mixing various BXX batches and saw mileage drop after B40. The way I would do it is run the tank nearly dry and then fill up with a measured amount fo D2 from the same source. The I get B100 and mix it in. That keeps both the D2 and the B100 as consistent as possible.
Lots of tanks are plastic lined and have had gunk. I think it has to do with the fuel used. Mine was clean as a whistle at 60K when I did the Hutch and Harpoon mods.
You'd have to add anti-gel in that cae.
The only thing I see it provide is lubricity and I am not a believer in whatever tripe that lubricity study alludes so for me, it is a price issue. Make it cheaper and I buy it. That the exhaust smells one way or the other is not a consideration. After all, I don't plumb the exhaust into the cab while driving. Yes, it is a little quieter but my engine noise is loud enough where I don't think I will notice the difference of a little quiet. Not after the Single Shot injectors, that is.
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5280,, my investor has put almost 35k trouble free miles on his 01 250 and i have almost 10k this year on the wifes 2000 X... i'd start by running 10-25 %bio and gradually increasing the amount every tank... this usually doesnt just up and plug a filter... i just did the harpoon mod and the inside of the tank is so clean you could eat off of it ... im in nw fl and we run b100 spring, summer and fall, then in winter depending on how cold ( we have ups and downs here) we run anywhere between 25% and 50% ... the fuel lines shouldnt be a problem as most auto makers switched to the non all rubber stuff in 94 (?) good luck...
bye the way you should look into making your own.... i have managed to get my cost per gallon down to .56/gal... howsabout them apples :0)
Is that what you will sell it for? I think not. What is your time and energy worth? Storage of the materials and product?
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I personally ran B99 in my old 6.0 04' had zero issues with that truck saw about a 1-1.5 mpg decrease in mileage. put probably 20k on it that way.
It is a really cool fuel, has zero nasty smell like petroleum diesel and running the bio it didn't exhale black smoke as bad (had the Banks 6 gun on it) and it smelled like french fries!!!
(off topic a bit)
My boss was running it in his 06 Duramax and he claimed he didn't see a decrease but had to change the fuel filter on it every 8-10k (and they are a pain to change, take off pass front tire, take off inner fender, unplug censer, unscrew, charge filter, prime system....pray that it starts)
saw about a 1-1.5 mpg decrease in mileage. put probably 20k on it that way.
has zero nasty smell like petroleum diesel
running the bio it didn't exhale black smoke as bad (had the Banks 6 gun on it)
and it smelled like french fries!!!
I don't know about you but in my book, that is bad.
Either way, I still have to wash my hands after fueling or wear disposable gloves so it is a push.
Banks stuff, as I said before, doesn't blow smoke. He has already blown it up the owner's butt so his stuff doesn't need to blow any more smoke.
So? You plumb it into your cabin to breath? My smoke goes to the back and I don't ever get to smell it unless I am running the car in a close garage and in that case, I have more pressing issues.
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That way, if you ever get bad fuel, drop the filter and reinsert new filter. In your case, you'd have to drop the tank. Cars fail in the middle of BFE and not your driveway. That is an automotive law.
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aklim.... of course i couldnt sell it for that price ... as for my time , i treat it like any other hobby.. i usually make mine while im out in the shop working on other stuff.. its no different than someone who races cars...my hobby just happens to save me $ instead of costing me...
I don't know about you but in my book, that is bad.
Either way, I still have to wash my hands after fueling or wear disposable gloves so it is a push.
Banks stuff, as I said before, doesn't blow smoke. He has already blown it up the owner's butt so his stuff doesn't need to blow any more smoke.
So? You plumb it into your cabin to breath? My smoke goes to the back and I don't ever get to smell it unless I am running the car in a close garage and in that case, I have more pressing issues.
Ummm, i'm not sure where your coming from here but none of my post was directed toward you i'm sorry you took it that way.
All I was doing was posting my experience with the fuel and stating a first person analytical observation. At the time #2 was $2.50 a gal and we bought 5000 gal at a locked in price of $1.73 so to save $.75 a gal and lose 1-1.5 mpg is a plus in any ones "book".
I said nothing about handling it, washing your hands is just good hygiene, it's not a bad idea to do that on a regular basis whether you handle a gas pump or not
And really, who said anything about a tail pipe in the cab? Nothing more than a observation, no need to go there.
BTW I have multiple videos of my truck in a cloud of smoke (I guess maybe I'm not in on the butt jokes??)
I think the original post went something like this,
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Anybody running B100 in their PSD? I'm picking up a new to me 2000 PSD Excursion next week. I have the availability to buy B100 through where I work. It is currently about $2.00 a gallon and the manufacturer is claiming increased fuel economy and all of the usual green hype that goes with this type of fuel. I'm wondering if I will have any problems running this stuff?
5280, if you decide to run the bio, it sounds like you are going to be pumping out of a private "bulk" style tank? When we ran it it was still fairly new product so i was taking advice from the university of Minnesota and we bought a specific tank for it.
Filters will be your friend. Make sure that you have a bio rated filter on the bulk tank. Don't go crazy and try to filter it down to the single micron all it will do is plug your tank filter up. In my experience we were seeing the cloud point of the bio at or about 35* so be sure to pay attention to the temps
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