Biodiesel - Diesel Forum

m35a2 · 10-20-2004, 07:29 PM

Ok,I am sure this has been posted several time already but can't find it.Does anyone have a link to the "Idiots guide to Biodiesel"?With diesel now over $2.25 a gallon here in bama I want to research on how to make biodiesel and start collecting the equipment.I am a total idiot in this stuff so please give me a site that gives all the info in moronese.Also,will I have to change anything on my IDI to run the stuff straight(I ain't paying some Camel jockey in abooda,assramistan 55 bucks a barrel for the black stuff along with 46+ cents a gallon to the gov't just in taxes on refined diesel).

jdkline · 10-20-2004, 07:47 PM

Hey, check out this site Infopop Biodiesel Site
and this one too Journey To Forever
Now , youmight be disgusted with some of these folks politics, I'm prob. onew of teh very few conservative/Libertarian types over there, but yeahthey're earthy crunch. OTOH, they've made thousands of gallons of veggie based fuel and still rolling. You'll find this stuff interesting. You can also look at the alternative fuels section of TDS, you'll see it on the list of forums.
Goodluck

DazedNConfuzedV8 · 10-20-2004, 08:07 PM

Since my truck is down, i'm retrofitting my setup for biodiesel... Since i was GIVEN a Cummins 3.9L 4 banger... Hehehe, thats going in my F150.

jdkline · 10-20-2004, 08:33 PM

Patrick, you were given a 4bt. Dang! Do you realize what a lucky man you are? Maybe it makes up for some of your other bad luck, at least partially. What kind of tranny are you going to use with it?

DazedNConfuzedV8 · 10-20-2004, 09:14 PM

Dunno yet, its the least of my problems. I was given the 4Bt 3.9 from work, they were gonna toss it... Just in the right place at the right time. All in all my luck hasnt been THAT bad, Rich 94F450SD is helping me out with a block, this Cummins will replace the motor in my F150 just because its such a gas guzzler, and the torque would be nice on that motor modded.
EDIT: its complete, down to the turbo [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

planetX · 10-20-2004, 10:13 PM

DazedNfused v8:

Do I read correct that your 91 is running Waste Veggie oil.

Please to tell how this is going for you. I just moved to Phoenix from the Rust belt . I can get 100 Bio diesel here - yet I cannot afford 3.30 a gallong every fill up. I did notice a decline in mileage but much smoother engine. I will put in 5 gal every fill up-

There has been some talk of fouled injectors with SVO- straight veg oil- care to comment

Also I see you have a Hypertech - I am soon to place my order - suggestions , comments

Please and thanks a bunch

peace:

Ajan

jdkline · 10-20-2004, 10:29 PM

Patrick, I hate to say it on a Ford Forum, but most say that the 4BT will bolt up to a GM tranny, because they were used in General Mistake bread trucks like for the Merita Company and such. Awesome find. What kind of shape is the 3.9 in? Good luck with the project. It would be nice of you if you could get us pics and dimensions on the 4bt since a lot of members have contemplated using them for one or another gas to diesel conversion.

DazedNConfuzedV8 · 10-21-2004, 02:55 AM

Yea i can get some dimensions, its actually a pretty long motor, this one was a pump application, and i was thinking about milling my adapter to use a non modular 4R70W, i built one a while back and its sitting, good for some serious HP and torque, yet won't suck the life out of the motor like some other transmissions will. I know some power can be made with this motor, i just need someone to guide me in the right direction. Then again i really haven't been trying to find it as i am in no hurry to get this project going. I know the motor has low hours on it, about 1100 i believe, so far the only thing i've done with it is haul it to my friend's place for storage.
As for the WVO, i'm running a heated system now, or was and will again when i get my truck back on the road. I bought an injector nozzle tester specifically because of my worry of ruining the injectors and washing down the cylinders. So far with 30K or so on WVO, most of those miles were running high %'s and unheated too, injectors still spray with a nice cone pattern and atomize very well. I'm also in the process of getting some tanks and playing around with the production of biodiesel, although i will probably not go large scale with that operation, i still want to be able to produce it. Its only a little bit more to go, i can almost do it all in one tank. Right now the truck has Veg in the front tank, and diesel/wvo mixed in the back tank 50/50, i'm trying to get completely off petroleum for combustion, and my motor oil already is on extended change intervals with my bypass filtration kit. So i have an ECO friendly Ford which also amazes me when i drive around town with a tender foot, without letting the turbo spool, i can get triple the mileage my F150 can! BTW WHAT HYPERTECH? you have me scratching my head about that one! lol

heavyduty · 10-21-2004, 09:23 AM

Hey Freight_Train go to ebay and punch in biodiesel and pay the five dollars for the download of this guys directions you should not have a hard time figuring it out. This is for guys like you and me. I was amazed at how simple in terms he put it once you read this you will find it is not that hard at all. Good luck on your adventure.

jdkline · 10-24-2004, 12:36 AM

Patrick, Freighttrain, Biodiesel is easy to make, teh trouble comes in making very high quality biodiesel. I am currently in teh process of going all biodiesel/WVO. I'm having some issues washing some of my batches. Had a couple of bum batches. If you can get oil that is still in good shape, like from seafood places, places that just use it for french fries or onion rings, etc, and chinese food places, you're money ahead , because these oils transesterify much easier,a nd if you burn them straight, they have less chemical nasties in them. Where is it you ahve been getting your WVO from Patrick? What does it look like in color? Mine is from a local burger joint. Its pretty brown/black. It still smells like food, and is rather water free, but has moderate to high FFA levels and is moderately burnt when I get it.

DazedNConfuzedV8 · 10-24-2004, 11:04 AM

When i'm in Orlando, i get some from work. Usually from Emeril's, Nascar Cafe, Hard Rock... Emerils has been the highest quality, light brown, not really burnt. When i'm at my parents... My parents being part asian.... they know alot of the local restraunt owners. (no my parents don't own a restraunt, my mother has her own importing company), i get it from about 7 or 8 chinese and 1 japanese restraunt. I've made a few test batches of biodiesel too, they've come out ok, i'll be doing a larger batch coming up soon, and test run it in a kubota diesel.