BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com
Ford Diesel Forum / Powerstroke Forum
Ford Diesel Forum / Powerstroke Forum
Go Back   Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com > Other Topics > Bio-Diesel and Alternative Fuels

Bio-Diesel and Alternative Fuels Discussion of biodiesel (homegrown or store bought) and other alternative fuels for diesel-powered vehicles.

TheDieselstop.com is the premier Diesel Truck Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-14-2004, 09:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Where am I?
Posts: 161
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

Has anyone here made a biodiesel processor from a water heater?
It seems like a pretty good idea and there are some good pictures of setups on the net.
__________________
<font color="red">"W" for 04'</font>
HID headlights conversion"Bi-Xenon"
DynoSources-Extreme chip, Downpipe, stock exhaust, huge K&N cone filter(8"x16") on the cast intake flange.
&gt;&gt;&gt;Running on B20 and Lovin that Whistle!!!&lt;&lt;&lt;
<font color="red">Ameteur and CB Radio Forums</font>
cdpyatt is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 11-14-2004, 10:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Upstate South Carolina
Posts: 243
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

I made mine from a 50 gallon water heater. It will make about 38 gallons max time you add 20% methanol and leave a little space for splashing around a bit.

I used all stainless valves though, which made the cost around $400 or so I think. Brass valves will turn a nice shade of green inside when exposed to wvo. I changed the valves on my tanks to stainless also. Don't want anything in my fuel but fuel!
__________________
'05 F250 4x4, CC, 3.73 LS, auto, FX4 White over Arizona Beige - Lovin this one! Just got back from DC, got an incredible 22.87 MPG @ 65mph!
***Bought back DSB 11/04! 03'04 F250 4x4 Crewcab, 3.73 gears, auto, FX4
Calculated unloaded average MPG since new to 17k miles: 13.8 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
83 E150 - 300-6, 92 E150 - 300-6, 93 E150 - 302-V8, 93 Dodge 250 Van - V6(Don't buy one of these!)
FTG5 USN, '84
teester is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-14-2004, 04:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Yacolt Wa USA
Posts: 573
My Photos: (17)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

Is the green from the wvo or from your bio I was told that bio is very nasty to hoses and you have to use viton because it will eat regular rubber hose.This was from a locale hose supplier who is trying to get hose for bio installs.
__________________
350 Long Rod
89 F350 4x4 CC ,97 5.9 Cummins, Fuel plate ground to a 100 profile,boost set to 30 lbs 5spd 31/2 exh no mufler. boost&pyro gauge.2500 lb frame mount overloads.power stroke intercooler,Valaire clutch.pulling 33ft 5th whl, 2000 Tahoe transporter.Hauling Banshees one with a long rod motor and my own porting,T-3s single carb the other stock port with pipes.
350 long rod is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-14-2004, 06:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Upstate South Carolina
Posts: 243
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

Mine was from oil. The valve was on my wvo tank. The little bit of oil remaining in the valve end jelled and turned green.

RE Hoses, use vinyl. Home Depot has some clear vinyl which I use for the methoxide. The braided hose they have has softened some with the biodiesel.
__________________
'05 F250 4x4, CC, 3.73 LS, auto, FX4 White over Arizona Beige - Lovin this one! Just got back from DC, got an incredible 22.87 MPG @ 65mph!
***Bought back DSB 11/04! 03'04 F250 4x4 Crewcab, 3.73 gears, auto, FX4
Calculated unloaded average MPG since new to 17k miles: 13.8 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
83 E150 - 300-6, 92 E150 - 300-6, 93 E150 - 302-V8, 93 Dodge 250 Van - V6(Don't buy one of these!)
FTG5 USN, '84
teester is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-14-2004, 10:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Central NC
Posts: 104
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

Hey Guzzler, check your PM
__________________
2003 eXcursion bone stock for now.....

Carolina_FX4 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-15-2004, 08:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Upstate South Carolina
Posts: 243
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

Hey guys, mine is for sale! I am building a 250 gal processor as I plan to replace my work vans with diesels. Making a huge batch will dramatically lower my "hands-on" time. Last 30 gallon batch, including oil pickup, cooking, and washing was probably about 2-2.5 hours.

I built my 50gal unit to see how practical it was. Now that I know how little effort it takes, how much I am helping the environment, not contributing to terrorism and how QUIET my truck is with the stuff, I am going full speed ahead! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]

FYI, it has all stainless valves and methanol still on top. Will make about 38 gallons. If interested, pm me.
__________________
'05 F250 4x4, CC, 3.73 LS, auto, FX4 White over Arizona Beige - Lovin this one! Just got back from DC, got an incredible 22.87 MPG @ 65mph!
***Bought back DSB 11/04! 03'04 F250 4x4 Crewcab, 3.73 gears, auto, FX4
Calculated unloaded average MPG since new to 17k miles: 13.8 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
83 E150 - 300-6, 92 E150 - 300-6, 93 E150 - 302-V8, 93 Dodge 250 Van - V6(Don't buy one of these!)
FTG5 USN, '84
teester is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-17-2004, 01:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

I would like to talk more about possibly purchasing your processor. Please e-mail walkerm@estridge.net.
walkerm is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-21-2004, 07:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Upstate South Carolina
Posts: 243
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

Here is a link to mine. I finally got some Pix... Carolina Home Brew!
__________________
'05 F250 4x4, CC, 3.73 LS, auto, FX4 White over Arizona Beige - Lovin this one! Just got back from DC, got an incredible 22.87 MPG @ 65mph!
***Bought back DSB 11/04! 03'04 F250 4x4 Crewcab, 3.73 gears, auto, FX4
Calculated unloaded average MPG since new to 17k miles: 13.8 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
83 E150 - 300-6, 92 E150 - 300-6, 93 E150 - 302-V8, 93 Dodge 250 Van - V6(Don't buy one of these!)
FTG5 USN, '84
teester is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-22-2004, 12:27 AM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: South TX, and Ontario 4 mo per year
Posts: 437
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

Guzzler, What was that 250 gal tank in its previous life?
__________________
'01 F350 CC 4x4 DRW, ISSPRO gauges, SCMT, Adj. 10k, 4" turbo back, Turbo Preluber, Gulf Coast bypass and trans filters..And a whole lotta other stuff.
copano is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-22-2004, 01:01 AM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Lone Star
Posts: 470
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

[ QUOTE ]
Guzzler, What was that 250 gal tank in its previous life?

[/ QUOTE ]

It looks like a pressurized water tank.
__________________
2003 4x4 crew cab 7.3 4x4 auto ,203* thermostat w/billet housing, Bob Riley Water filter, Magnaflow XL 4" exhaust, HX mod, DI 4 Position Chip(stock /40/80/100),AFE series 1,
intank / pre-pump mod , intake heater delet ,
shift kit, DiPricol gauges, DI regulated return, Retrax Bed Cover
cjheap is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-22-2004, 02:50 AM   #11 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Upstate South Carolina
Posts: 243
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

Not exactly sure but the walls are about 3/8" thick. Rated 125 PSI @ 450*
__________________
'05 F250 4x4, CC, 3.73 LS, auto, FX4 White over Arizona Beige - Lovin this one! Just got back from DC, got an incredible 22.87 MPG @ 65mph!
***Bought back DSB 11/04! 03'04 F250 4x4 Crewcab, 3.73 gears, auto, FX4
Calculated unloaded average MPG since new to 17k miles: 13.8 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
83 E150 - 300-6, 92 E150 - 300-6, 93 E150 - 302-V8, 93 Dodge 250 Van - V6(Don't buy one of these!)
FTG5 USN, '84
teester is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-26-2004, 03:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Where am I?
Posts: 161
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

Is it true that with a Hot water heater setup the process can be done in 1-2hrs because the heat speeds up the reaction?
Sure would be nice to take a 80gal heater and make some large batches [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
cdpyatt is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-28-2004, 02:40 AM   #13 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Upstate South Carolina
Posts: 243
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

Yea, you can make it in less time. Supposedly a 10 degree increase in temp will cut process time in half. I make it at 125-130F and mix for about 40-50 minutes. If I increased the temp to about 145, I could halve the time. However, you shouldn't try to do it above about 140F because methanol boils at 65C or 149F. That is unless you have a pressurized reactor.

That can be done in the water heater but I'm not familiar with what pressure you would need for what temps etc. However, if made with the see-through hoses I wouldn't try to pressurize it over 10psi or so. Wouldn't want a hose to blow out!
__________________
'05 F250 4x4, CC, 3.73 LS, auto, FX4 White over Arizona Beige - Lovin this one! Just got back from DC, got an incredible 22.87 MPG @ 65mph!
***Bought back DSB 11/04! 03'04 F250 4x4 Crewcab, 3.73 gears, auto, FX4
Calculated unloaded average MPG since new to 17k miles: 13.8 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
83 E150 - 300-6, 92 E150 - 300-6, 93 E150 - 302-V8, 93 Dodge 250 Van - V6(Don't buy one of these!)
FTG5 USN, '84
teester is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-28-2004, 04:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Where am I?
Posts: 161
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater


That's awesome!
I like the idea of requiring less time and using the pump to do all the mixing w/o any fumes. Is the pump most are using a circulator from a boiler system?
cdpyatt is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-28-2004, 08:05 PM   #15 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Upstate South Carolina
Posts: 243
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: BioDiesel Processor from hot water heater

Check out the link here and click the "photo-equipment" button and look for the Biodiesel Appleseed Reactor. It has several pages. Also many photos of peoples reactors and equipment are posted there.

The pump most people use is from "Northern Tool &amp; Hydraulics". YOu will find much info and photos of the pump there also.
__________________
'05 F250 4x4, CC, 3.73 LS, auto, FX4 White over Arizona Beige - Lovin this one! Just got back from DC, got an incredible 22.87 MPG @ 65mph!
***Bought back DSB 11/04! 03'04 F250 4x4 Crewcab, 3.73 gears, auto, FX4
Calculated unloaded average MPG since new to 17k miles: 13.8 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
83 E150 - 300-6, 92 E150 - 300-6, 93 E150 - 302-V8, 93 Dodge 250 Van - V6(Don't buy one of these!)
FTG5 USN, '84
teester is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com > Other Topics > Bio-Diesel and Alternative Fuels

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Wheel & Tire Center

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:32 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.