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Old 11-16-2004, 09:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Can I run waste peanut oil??

I have access to waste peanut oil from fryers. My question is, can I mix this with the diesel right into my tank after I filter it? I would plan to keep one tank straight diesel for startups and shutdowns. Would I be able to run it straight without having a heater for the tank? I plan to try it in the summer time only. Much appreciated, Klimczak
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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

From what I have gathered, peanut oil is great. Filtraton is a must but any waste vegetable oil needs to be heated if it is to be used straight.

Some guys are adding WVO to their diesel with success. But, as outside temps cool, that percentage must decrease. Its all about flow rates. Colder veggie, regardless of the level of filtration, moves more and more like syrup. Diluting with regular diesel helps but at some point the lines and filters will get clogged unless heat is added.

Congratulations on securing some good peanut oil. You're on your way!

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Old 11-16-2004, 01:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

I'm running 20% peanut oil 80% diesel right now in my truck with outside temps running between 70-80 deg.
I won't run a higher ratio than that and would probably reduce that if it gets colder.
My goal is to do a seperate heated tank to run 100% veg oil as soon as I can find a high presure fuel pump that works.
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Old 11-16-2004, 02:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

What high pressure fuel pumps have you tried? Which ones are insufficient in your opinion and why?

I've heard more than one person talk about the Holley Blue pump as a good one to pump the veggie. Agree? Disagree?

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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

Funny you should speak about the blue holly. I have just ordered one, gonna use it to push the veggie to the front of the truck. Installing it just below the tank on the frame rail underneath the truck.
The pump will push the veggie to and through the heated filter under the hood. I feel that the lift pump on my PSD is/will have troubles when the cold weather really gets here, so the blue holly will help things out.
Anyway thats the way I have it figgered out. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img] and I'm sticking to it [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
Unless someone tells me this blue holly will blow the hoses off.[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]

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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

Hey thanks a bunch guys. I plan to get some oil coming in and start filtering it when I get the chance to.
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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

Ive heard that its got too many fats in it, but this was in reference to turning it into BD.

Hmmm....

Ide check out the infopop site. Theyve got GOOD info.
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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

Remember, the first diesel engine invented by Rudolf Diesel ran on peanut oil. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img]
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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

klimczak- Before going to the seperate SVO tank, I ran up to 75% WVo and 25% diesel with no problems down to 40*. I would Say at even a 50/50 mix you would be plenty safe in those temps. As for the stock pump, it WILL eventually fail if using it for SVO that is not heated to better than 130. Mine worked great for about 4 months, but recently started stalling. I would have to tap on the pump to get it to work in the mornings. Even with diesel wvo mix. The holley blue I am sure would make a great lift pump, but it is only rated at 14psi, so it could not be used effectively as a primary pump. I just recently shelled out for the Aeromotive A1000, and that is one mutha of a pump. So far it is working great. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img] If you are going to continue to use the stock pump as the HP pump, I would highly recomend replacing it with the Aeromotive unit, and never look back. just my .02 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

I replaced my holley red with a summit brand fuel pump because I got sick of crawling under and beating the red to get it to run.The summit came with an adjustable regulator also. I THINK the psi is highier than the blue also.
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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

Rudolph's first diesel ran on coal dust.
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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

Seems like I remember coal dust too.

Anyway, I have also been thinking about Peanut oil as I have about 50 gallons of the stuff in my garage I want to get rid of (I have a friend that brings his gear over a couple of times a year and fries Turkey's, wings and fries). I've been watching it in the containers since it's been getting colder, and although it's a little syrupy (sp?), it seems like a good electric pump would be able to pump it.

What's the best way to heat the tank? I know a few Mercedes diesel guys that have run coolant lines back to a second tank with WVO, and use the primary tank with Diesel for starting and shutdown, then switch to the WVO after the engine has reached operating temperature and the coolant has been circulating through the lines back to the aux. tank.

Just kind of seems like you could get hosed if you thought you were just stopping for a few minutes and it really turned into several hours in the winter if you didn't switch back to Diesel every single time before you shut the engine down.
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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

I'm considering this, but I do long trips. $-8 hours. I would use deisel fo rtown and the veggie for travel. Atleast one tank of the trip will be cheaper. I'm going to see if I can get some connections in the towns we race at so I can refill when I go eat.
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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

Well I did it and she is so far running fine
I strained and filtered my used turkey frying peanut oil.
filtered it thru a 3 micron filter at 65 psi.
mixed 2 gallons of peanut to 15 of #2.
smokes alittle more at idle but i contribute this to it being 50 out side.
other than that no real difference.
to chicken to run a higher concentration. it dilluted fine in my test quart so i decided to mix it 2 gallons to 15
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Re: Can I run waste peanut oil??

I had 2 cubies of turkey frying peanut oil given to me last week.I filtered it and dumped it in along with the oil I get from the donut shop.I cant see any difference. It starts and runs the same and no difference in the amount of smoke.
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