considering wmo!! - Diesel Forum

f350powerstroke01 · 10-21-2009, 08:28 PM

hey guys im cosidering running wmo. i just got few questions about it first, all that has to do done is filter filter and filter than heat the oil and drive right? please tell me otherwise if not and second could it be mixed with waste atf or is it best not to mix? and last what other oils can be used? thanks guys i am on a tight budget and with my work i travel alot, on my dime, and any dimes saved on fuel sure will help alot.

ckanderson · 10-21-2009, 08:34 PM

if you search all your questions will be answered....

f350powerstroke01 · 10-29-2009, 06:46 PM

ive researched wmo and im gonna build a filter set up but i still havent seen anything about mixing oils like atf and motor oil. ive seen ratios like 40% motor oil 10% atf and 50% diesel, but what if i had 10 gallons motor oil and 10 gallons atf would it be better to filter seperate or mixed? should i run the oil in truck and when empty run atf or safe to mix? what about waste oil and veggie oil is it safe to mix?

ckanderson · 10-29-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by f350powerstroke01

ive researched wmo and im gonna build a filter set up but i still havent seen anything about mixing oils like atf and motor oil. ive seen ratios like 40% motor oil 10% atf and 50% diesel, but what if i had 10 gallons motor oil and 10 gallons atf would it be better to filter seperate or mixed? should i run the oil in truck and when empty run atf or safe to mix? what about waste oil and veggie oil is it safe to mix?

i run a mix of both. probibly 90 percent oil, 10 percent atf and run it as a 50/50 mix in my truck. most of the oil i run is from hondas so its 5w-20

keep in mind im only on my first tank

it smokes just a very little bit at full throttle, but cutting my diesel costs in half is totally worth it.

blackdog006 · 10-29-2009, 08:23 PM

The main thing is to filter down to 1 micron or less and to make sure that there is absolutely no water in it.

airfooter · 10-30-2009, 01:54 PM

What happened to the posse on this forum who used to preach the ways of WMO and blending WVO??

Likely they found out why its not such a good idea... It usually takes awhile because 'it runs great' - right up to the point that it don't run so great anymore - then its often tooooo late.

That 'little bit of smoke' is your first indication of failure to achieve complete combustion. This is slowing coking up the combustion chamber and ruining your engine. Yep, MANY folks have had 'limited' success burning WMO and WVO in un-modified engines - but it is often short-lived (nowhere near the life expectancy of a 'diesel' engine). Sadly, the horror stories seldom get published. I have personally met several 'blenders' who wrecked engines and never have posted on any forums - but like you, heard from somewhere WMO/WVO was a viable fuel.

I always say Choose wisely or PLEASE post pics of the carnage!!

But, what do I know - I have a 'converted' truck that has over 110k miles and an Excursion w/over 40k miles on straight WVO without ANY problems.

Sure, I spent a few $$ on my conversions, but I got that back so long ago I never give it a 2nd thought! And unlike blending, our 3000-8000 mile road trips cost about as much as driving to town... (I've been well over 10k miles on a single tank of diesel)

firemediceric · 11-01-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by airfooter

What happened to the posse on this forum who used to preach the ways of WMO and blending WVO??

FWIW, three and a half years later from when I began I'm still blending in the two vehicles in my signature.

cantrellc123 · 11-04-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by f350powerstroke01

hey guys im cosidering running wmo. i just got few questions about it first, all that has to do done is filter filter and filter than heat the oil and drive right? please tell me otherwise if not and second could it be mixed with waste atf or is it best not to mix? and last what other oils can be used? thanks guys i am on a tight budget and with my work i travel alot, on my dime, and any dimes saved on fuel sure will help alot.

My recomendation is to invest in a centrifuge. This is the path that I took and I have been VERY satisfied.
I bought the CF and then installed an in line immersion heater just before the CF heating the oil up to approx. 150F and then filter at about 5-8 GPH. Once this is done I mix 50/50 with diesel and pour into my 1000 gallon skid tank. At the pump I installed a 2 mic filter as an added bit of protection. I am at approx. 800 gallons on the 2 mic filter at the pump and it shows no signs of restricted flow yet.
The only change that I plan to make is to install a water trap before the immersion heater as I have recieved a lot of oil in 55 gal. drums. A few of these had more than a couple of gallons of water in them,my thinking is a clear water trap/filter would simplify the process.
With my buisness I use 100 gallons of fuel per week approx. so I am always on the lookout for WMO.
I have been doing this for 1 year with ZERO problems.Now @ 40k on 1 truck and about 20-25k on the 2nd. At 35k on 1st truck I had Ryan Casserly remove the injectors and inspect them for any problems. There were no related issues at all only a couple of bad O-rings that were replaced.

For icing on the cake if you go this route, live tuning by Bill @ PHP really was money well spent.