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Old 07-30-2008, 10:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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DIY Hydrogen booster for 7.3 ??

Folks, I've been doing biodiesel for a few years now. Making my own for my 99 SD, 02 Ex, and wifes 06 VW Jetta.

I tell you all that to "prove" I am not new to alternative fuels.

What I want to know is this; Is anyone here running a hydrogen booster system on their truck?

If so, what type generator did you build, and can you help me out with the same?

Looking forward to hear this.

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Old 07-30-2008, 11:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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They've already been argued to death here:
Hydrogen Generators
Hydrogen?
They do not provide any benefit.
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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They do not provide any benefit.

Well, I came here, after doing lots of research. I'm 80% convinced it does work. The other 20%? I'm waiting to build one myself to see for sure.

I've heard a lot of folks say it doens't work. None of them have tried.

I've heard some folks say it does work. All of them have tried.

Who should I but 80% faith into?
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... Who should I [put] 80% faith into?
I recommend the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
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haha...left the door open for that one.

I was looking into the hydrogen generator etc. approach. If it were as good as the sales pitch portrayed, everyone, including municipalities, etc, would be on board. Too much money to find out something doesn't work.
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haha...left the door open for that one.

I was looking into the hydrogen generator etc. approach. If it were as good as the sales pitch portrayed, everyone, including municipalities, etc, would be on board. Too much money to find out something doesn't work.
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Is all that stuff you have on your truck as good as the sales pitch? IF so, why is it aftermarket and why isn't everyone, including municipalities, etc, would be on board?

I'm not trying to be ugly here guys, but your making it hard. I didn't come here and ask "what does everybody think about hydrogen boosters?"

I asked " Is anyone here running a hydrogen booster system on their truck? If so, what type generator did you build, and can you help me out with the same?"


You are all welcome to your opinion. But If you haven't tried it, I'm not asking for your opinion.

If anyone has tried it, I would like to hear from them.

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Yes there are a few naysayers here as posted above and they seem to have credentials. But there are also people getting results even if it cant be documented according to some other peoples standards. Its what research and DIY is all about. I used one on a gasser with good results. It was browns gas actually but it worked nonetheless.
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I'm with you. I have been making home brew bio-diesel since 06. Was told by several people bio was a crappy fuel. Plugs up filters. Come to find out it is fantastic fuel and plugged up filters because of all the petro diesel crap it cleaned out of the fuel system.
I too wish to build a Hydrogen generator. Good info on how to build a quality unit is hard to find though.

Help from those that have built a successful unit would be appreciated.

Those of you who think they do not work please find another thread to respond to. I believe this thread was started to find information on results and how to build one for our selves. I for one wish to try it for myself.
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I have a 2001 e350 with a 7.3 dit and dual alternators. so i have a twin 7 plate setup and a PWM. the computer has been reflashed with a superchip economy setting and a rev limliter 250 below stock. averaging between 22 and 24 with different drivers daily.

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And yea, the same guys have already hosed my thread.
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Do you have any pics of your set-up? Where did you get the info on building instruction/ specifications?
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All of our ambulances have 2 or more batteries. i removed one from under the hood and relocated it to the rear beside the others. half in plexi box same size as batt, inside the batt area. bubbler to the side (as part of the box) with a rubber pressure release. twin 7 plate with electrolyte solution (not sodium carbonate) and a pwm. stainless cost about 35 to cut, plexi was about 20, epoxy - hardware - wire - ran about 25 at lowes. as far as instructions, i didnt use any for this specific application, i used a chem book. you need an electrical current, and electrodes to create electrolysis. the box is custom fit to the battery location and the bubbler is internal. i use the plate setup ombined with the pwm (pulse width modulator) too get the most effiientcy... the other thing i had to do is reflast the computer with one of those tuners to get the best fuel economy also.
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did you test the mileage before you re-flashed the programing? IF so what was it then?

I have been looking all over and found info here. I am working on a an 8 plate(7 cell) version myself. I will post more about it when I have it assembled and tested.

I have also joined another on-line forum dedicated to HHO generation for cars. Look here. Over there I go by Mr Fixit. They are pretty informative, share information, and very civil so far. It reminds me of the infopop biodiesel forum. Over there I read that it is 'recommended' that you have 1/2 liter per minute per liter of engine size for best results. So I guess I'm looking for about 3 3/4 liters per minute for a 7.3.

I had hoped to find someone here who had done this and could point the direction, the other site seems to be predominately gassers.

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I think you need to control the HHO production by tying into the throttle position sensor, for one thing. This will keep you from getting to much moisture and corroding components
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i dont think its a big moisture issue. and as far as tying it in to the computer period is an abstract approach for a little or no existing problem.
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