Does it smell ??? - Diesel Forum

ta152h0 · 03-28-2005, 12:39 AM

When you are behind a biodiesel powered vehicle, does it smell like a fast food restaurant backroom ?????????

my97TJ · 03-28-2005, 12:53 AM

If it's running something low like B20 (20% bio-diesel with 80% regular diesel) it will still smell like diesel, just not as strong. If it's running B100 (100% bio-diesel) it could smell like whatever was cooked in the oil that the bio-diesel was made out of. So if the oil came from a movie multi-plex, it smells like popcorn. If it came from a fish fry place..... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

ta152h0 · 03-28-2005, 06:12 PM

So if it came from a cheese factory, it would smell of limburger cheese ???? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img] Hope they never make biodiesel from cabbage [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]

forrest11479 · 03-29-2005, 04:04 PM

my B100 is made from soy oil .. not used oil and it smells sweet kinda like home fries but its not even notice able unless you stick tyour face in the tail pipe or when i strat it on a cold moring and i get that first puff of smoke. buy a tank full if you like you buy more if not you switch back to the old #2. i am not going back ..

93turbo'd_animal · 03-29-2005, 08:44 PM

I'm ussing brand new sunflowerseed oil and it still smells like french fries [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

Spencnaz · 03-29-2005, 10:23 PM

I've not converted to B100 yet as my processor isnt up to full capacity, but what scent I've notice from people running B100 is more like the smell of a good Chinese restaurant, you know kind of a peanut oil type smell.

Makes me hungry thinking about it..... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]

slydiesel · 03-29-2005, 11:54 PM

ok im new so what is bio-diesel? where do you get it? and how much a gallon is it?

ToddT · 03-30-2005, 07:28 AM

I'm only running WVO so far but the other day a buddy came to pick me up for lunch. He asked "Hey man, you cookin' out?"

"Nope, I'm just idling my truck."

We went to my favorite burger joint and he commented that my truck smelled just like this. Imagine that... this is where I get most of my grease!

I had some truckers really checking out the side of my truck the other day as they went by... to see if it was a Powerstroke or not. I have a feeling they couldn't place that exhaust. Not quite diesel but definitely not gas. Hmmm?

Todd T

OMCUSNR · 03-30-2005, 01:38 PM

Bio-diesel is a vegetable based oil that has been "transestrified", by combining free fatty acids with methoxide (lye & methanol). This precipitates glycerol (a sugar based, soapy gel)& forms cetane, which is what Combustion Ignition engines like to burn. Bio-diesel may be made from just about any vegetable based oil, waste or virgin. It can also be made from fatty solids (lard), but that requires some additional rendering to liquify it. People who talk about waste vegetable oil are not talking about bio-diesel. Bio-diesel may be mixed in any proportion with petroleum diesel (you usually see something like b-20, which is 20% biodiesel & 80% #2).

It is an excellent solvent & lubricator, so if you have been using petroleum based diesel (#2) it will clean any junk out of the fuel system, clogging filters. It also will attack natural rubber. If you have an older truck, you may need to replace fuel lines if you run B-100 (100% bio-diesel). For really good, accurate info about bio-d see www.biodieselnow.com .

B-100 around here is selling for $3.05 untaxed & $3.30 taxed.

tjc1989 · 03-30-2005, 06:49 PM

I got my first whiff the other day. Seattle area public transit diesel buses began using B-20 Biodiesel a few months ago, and one drove by me while I was standing on a street corner, and the breeze was just right and yup, it smelled like regular diesel and French Fries. Motor sounded normal to me and sounded like it was running evenly.

I have located a place about 20 miles from me in Kent, WA, that sells Biodiesel, and I think I will try it soon. My PSD is running good, and is getting good mpg , but pretty noisy so I am wondering if it will help at all. Of course, I really think the noise is from air in the fuel injection system, so most likely will not help, but I am curious. Its higher priced than regular diesel, I understand. However if it runs good and enough of us get to using it, that should change. Same thing with automakers, if enough demand is there, Ford might make chages to where our PSD's could run on B-50 or maybe even straight B-100 biodiesel in the future. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

forrest11479 · 03-30-2005, 07:41 PM

i byu my bio diesle by the 55 gallon drum for 2.60 a gallon 5 cents more then diesel this week.

kude · 03-30-2005, 09:39 PM

Lone_Wolf_87,

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Same thing with automakers, if enough demand is there, Ford might make chages to where our PSD's could run on B-50 or maybe even straight B-100 biodiesel in the future.

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I ran across an article about the Duramax 6600 going into GM Vans.

http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/...ur_030305.html

If you read the article, it claims the Duramax 6600 will be biodiesel friendly.

Houndog · 03-30-2005, 09:45 PM

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Ford might make chages to where our PSD's could run on B-50 or maybe even straight B-100 biodiesel in the future. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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They do. 7.3's love it. It's the 6 liter that you have to baby with, around B 80.

Houndog

slydiesel · 03-31-2005, 12:48 AM

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B-100 around here is selling for $3.05 untaxed & $3.30 taxed.

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OUCH thats more than #2 other than the engine bennys it sure dont do much for the wallet. but thanks for enlighting me on what it is [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

tjc1989 · 03-31-2005, 11:58 AM

Thanks, KUDE, interesting article. And Thanks, HOUNDDOG, but I can't help but wonder just how long before major problems develop from using biodiesel. Especially the PSD injectors and whole fuel injection system. I mean, If a PSD 7.3 can get 300 to 400 thousand miles if maintained and treated properly, I wonder how many miles one could run on biodiesel before major problems started happening? I guess it hasn't been used long enough to start getting those kind of life expectancy numbers yet. You know, right now, apparently Ford recommends using no more that 5% biodiesel or B5 I guess it would be, in their fuel,so they must know something about their engine design that has them on the side of caution. It sounds like Duramax designers are trying to design reliability and longevity into their design for their new engine running on biodiesel. And I guess that brings up another point. Mine is still in warranty, and you know how Ford is if you run a fuel in it that is not approved. Whereas, it appears the Duramax folks will not care. Hopefully Ford will soon up the percentage of biodiesel recommendation, and not void warranty. Not trying to bash biosiesel, as I plan to try some very soon, but CAUTIOUSLY. As far as the WVO and straight WVO users, well, that is another story for me. I love my truck too much to risk shortening the engine's life expectancy with that stuff, so will stand on the sidelines and watch that one unfold a little longer. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]