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Originally Posted by drcampbell
I think I get it now: Elucidating fundamental principles of science, engineering and mathematics is equivalent to “getting in the way of people’s curiosity”.
And publishing one’s thoughts on an Internet bulletin board is somehow “getting in the way”? Those must be some powerful, powerful thoughts if they’re capable of preventing a would-be inventor from disconnecting from the Internet, walking away from the computer and going out to the workshop to invent something. Maybe I should enroll in that Jedi Master program, after all.
There are people who gamble away $3,000 in a night at the casino and love it, too. That doesn’t make it a wise & prudent investment.
Yes, there are cars that run on hydrogen fuel cells. Apollo spacecraft ran on hydrogen fuel cells, and quite successfully, if I do say so myself.
But this thread isn’t about cars that run on hydrogen fuel cells; it’s about cars that run on gas or Diesel engines.
Yes, a television “news” program did run an uncalibrated test on a dynamometer.
And what were those test results? Inconclusive, irreproducible, 1/10-1/20 of the manufacturer’s claim and in the same range of mileage improvements which can be expected from switching to a red oil cap.
Nobody ever said electrolysis isn’t real.
What we’ve said is that it provides no benefit to gas or Diesel engines.
I think a tin-foil hat is a splendid idea. It’ll give people advance warning of the intellectual quality to expect from underneath the hat.
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You know I have heard this on WIKIPEDIA also. line of bull. Those pompous supposed experts are like yourself, stuck in a box of what is and what is not.
I am a electronics tech. and mechanical engineers are not even close to the answers of what is and what is not when it comes to HHO. I also come from generations of mechanics and have taken a bit of it in school. My grandada and dad already taught me how to rebuild a engine and carbuerator way before I took it in school. Also Electrolysis is not the answer. The highest efficiency for electrolysis is 300%. The Water Fuel Cell which is a capacitor that has the side affects of splitting water molecules much like a battery can do but much faster is around 1700% efficiency return. Stanley Meyer's has that claim and others are doing it out there as we speak. Like Gasoline or diesel water is stored energy waiting for that ignition spark once it is separated into the main two components of Hydrogen and Oxygen which are both the most flammable gases or atoms known to mankind.
Everyone knows that you can not drop a electric appliance or phone or anything electric in a bath tub of water because the water amplifies the electricity over 1,000 times what it originally was. Stanley Meyer's found a way to tap into that property of water in his Water Fuel Cell or WFC which is a capacitor.
As for this forum being about diesel fuel and so forth? The American Hydrogen Association says the best hydrogen running engines for conversion are Turbo or Super Charged Diesel engines. They have been converting engines for years to run on hydrogen alone. HHO is twice as powerful and as fast in the burn as is hydrogen alone. With the WFC you have two powerful gases for less energy than electrolysis can produce it at.
You can use a converted alternator like Stanley Meyer's used or you can use a digital circuit like Ravi uses. What ever you use remember it is almost no amps and very high volts. Electrolysis uses much more amps and volts are high also in the units they are coming up with these days like Dawson's unit. This requires a catalyst which causes corrosion of the SS plates. It is junk! Only Meyer's set up is worth messing with or experimenting with. You have a big rig that runs on HHO from water, and Meyer's WFC can use ocean or sea or snow or river or lake or tap or sewage water even. Electrolysis requires distilled water which is a waste of money also.
That is right also that people are putting cheap HHO making units on their trucks and it does help with fuel economy but why use electrolysis when the WFC by Meyers is much more efficient? It not only produced a lot more hydrogen and oxygen gas but it also produced 300 watts for every 100 watts put into it off the WFC capacitor in some peoples testing of it. It is not over unity also. Water has it's own stored energy principals and it is not thermodynamics also. It is electrical.
A car battery is known to explode, why? Because it gets a build up of explosive gases sometimes. I was told it is hydrogen by my mechanic relatives. All it takes when a build up occurs is one static spark to ignite it. That is why batteries are known to explode and sometime they get internal arcing that causes the ignition also. In electricity a capacitor is a battery except it charges and discharges way faster than a battery and it can discharge without a load on it. Because it charges and discharges so fast it is very possible if you are at the right frequency to have resonance in the LRC circuit to produce a production of explosive gases just like a car battery except way faster. Now that is putting it in as simple terms as I can get it for these stuck in the box supposed experts who think they already know all the mysteries of this universe, and all the laws of the universe also.
To them anything out of there box is impossible. Well while they can not believe in HHO the rest of us will be out there making these machines work and many are already running on water under the guns of the federal government so as not to get harassed and possibly assassinated as Stanley Meyer's was. I just had to clarify this and I am up in air on coming back to this forum since these people are so closed minded it is sickening. They have not even tried to build one themselves but they are sure it will not work so if they did I am sure it will not work so they can come back on here and say it does not work? They probably will do some stupid mess up on purpose for that purpose?
All I know is not only was my Dad a Mechanic but he was also in Electronics work. He told me when I was young that everything has a frequency and if you find the right frequency you can do many things such as kill parasites in the body or actually even kill humans if you where that devious, You can separate atoms if you find the right frequency also. In fact people working with speakers found that at a frequency of around 400 Hz or so was able to compress sound into a bunch of fine tiny tubes and that it produced heat at one point and extreme cold at another was safer and more efficient than freon refrigeration and at the same time could be used as a heater on the other spectrum of the tubes.
They also found certain frequencies can make exhaust particles clump together in a stack and then when they got too heavy they fell to the bottom of the stack. You could make tiny particles of even formaldehyde clump together until it fell to the bottom of the stack or a catch tube. Any chemical you wanted to stop you could stop that way. They showed it years ago on TV. Never heard a thing about it after that and as a Intervenor in Natural Gas Power Plants with the CEC that technology never was even mentioned.
There is a guy who was researching a cure for cancers recently and using colloidal gold injected into the body and a certain frequency he was able to fry that cancer out of the body. Well he wondered what it would do to a glass of water. It did nothing at all. He added salt and the water caught fire in the frequency. The FDA just rejected his cancer cure use of this device as they always do in any cancer cures. They are bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical industry is why and most their funding is no longer federal funding but the very industries they are suppose to be monitoring. In my eyes they are no longer a federal agency. The FDA is all a sham on the side of murdering businesses now.
Any way the point is that my Dad was right on all accounts be he a bit crazy. He is a Genius and most geniuses are crazy somewhat.
I am a bible reader also and I believe in a very superior being with a name. Jehovah God. I figure he would not make it hard for us to have a safe and easy to use energy source. Water is the most abundant resource on this planet. It is also the largest miracle you can see to date. It is made of 2 of the most flammable gases on earth and yet it puts out fires. It is solid, liquid, and gas all in one. It is known as the best universal solvent known to mankind and it also is what gives life to all living creatures. Nothing can live long without it. Nothing! It recycles on the planet and it provides nourishment for plant life which we need to survive on. When the HHO is burnt it is turned back into water that is clean and safe to drink. To me the best use of it is steam power engines so we can take the exhaust and use it for fresh drinking water. you can take sewage water and reclaim it. Ocean water and reclaim it. Any water source and reclaim it for fresh water.
So again the AHA says that Turbo or Super charged Diesel is the best engine for Hydrogen use. I like steam engines myself. Like the Doble E Series Steam Car. He even had a plane that ran on Steam around the time of his death. They where silent running for the most part.
Any way you guys can argue all this later I am done talking even though I could go on about all this and more. Have fun!
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