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Old 11-04-2008, 01:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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HHO, someone has to have put one in by now

I have seen a few posts about HHO generator and figure there has to be someone running one by now?
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It has been discussed many times and most times the threads get locked.

Over at TDIclub.com at least they have been smart enough to ban HHO talk. Unless you drag an extension cord around, connected to your F350, then H2 and O2 might work for you. Til then....
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why are the threads being locked and the hho discussion banned?
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Old 11-10-2008, 08:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Because the whole HHO thing is a scam designed to remove cash from the uninformed. Those that believe in it do so with a religous fervor. That makes the threads get pretty hot and the moderators have to spend a lot of time cleaning them up. It will happen in this thread, too. Just watch.
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Because the whole HHO thing is a scam designed to remove cash from the uninformed. Those that believe in it do so with a religous fervor. That makes the threads get pretty hot and the moderators have to spend a lot of time cleaning them up. It will happen in this thread, too. Just watch.
Like that remark. hehehehh Ive used on a gasser and it was fine but the naysayers keep chimming in that it cant work.... and so the battle goes
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Someone talk to me about a hydrogen gen.

Yes I have and it works, well. check out the above link. also look @ my photos in my profile
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the naysayers keep chimming in that it cant work....
Some of us understand physics, chemistry, and the placebo effect. Some of us don't.
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why are the threads being locked and the hho discussion banned?
Why? Because the discussions consume bandwith without offering any new or useful information, and usually degenerate into "nyah-nyah" discussions.

The concept has been around at least since the 1970s. Any patents have long since expired, putting the technology into the public domain. The technology is cheap and simple, well within the reach of backyard tinkerers, and the information is out there, not sealed in a vault at an Area-51 Air Force base.

And yet, thirty years later, nobody's adopted it. No vehicle manufacturer offers one as an OEM option. Major fleet operators like UPS, the post office and Hunt don't use them. Railroads don't use them. The US Army doesn't use them. Am I to believe none of them are adequately motivated by potential fuel savings?

So my question, still unanswered, is "Where are the yea-sayers"? Where are the test results to substantiate the claims?

The slience is deafening.
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And yet, thirty years later, nobody's adopted it. No vehicle manufacturer offers one as an OEM option. Major fleet operators like UPS

I can say that 70% of owner operator do have one on there truck.

here is a link were it says the military are already looking into what he has, not sure for what.

the system i built is sorta like stan myer and the only real improvements that i have seen are for oil changes and a cleaner engine.

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here is some food for thought.

in 1830's a gentle made the first electric car, why did it take so long for the car company's to start making electric cars to sell to the public.

lmao, 1830, and its 2008 kinda funny when someone makes a statement to why our big company's wont jump on something so quick.

had to add this

1916, the first electric hybrid was made, what year is it again. 2008

and look here, jay leno driving his 100 year old electric car.
The 100-Year-Old Electric Car - Jay Leno's Garage - Popular Mechanics

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I can say that 70% of owner operator do have one on there truck.
Where do you get that information? I had no idea that there were that many gullible o/o out there.
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just looking for one thing to argue about

answer my question, why is it that there have been these ideas of creating a car or truck in means of not just using gas (oil) way back in the 1800's and now we are seeing more and more of hybrid cars in the 2000's

then I will answer your questions

just wanted to add this fact in as well
Rudolf Diesel, who invented the diesel engine in 1894, planned to run his creations on peanut oil.
why did it take so long for anyone to use it as a general practice today!???????

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70% of owner operator do have one on [their?] truck.
There you go. Drop in at the local truck stop and see what they're doing with 70% of their trucks. All the info you're likely to need to build/install/calibrate your own HHO apparatus, firsthand.

Do take notes & photographs and report back. The lack of solid information here suggests that nobody's been able to make them work as claimed.
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munch, munch.

these fry's are really good and very greasy.
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just wanted to add this fact in as well
Rudolf Diesel, who invented the diesel engine in 1894, planned to run his creations on peanut oil.
why did it take so long for anyone to use it as a general practice today!???????
Because it's a PITA, and I have a lot of experience with it. Yeah, I save on fuel costs, but once you go down that road, you suddenly have a very high maintenance vehicle and involved fueling process. It's not like you can just roll up to the pump, fuel up on VO and go...
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here is some food for thought.

in 1830's a gentle made the first electric car, why did it take so long for the car company's to start making electric cars to sell to the public.
Um, maybe because car companies didn't exist in the 1830's? There was no rural electrification to charge them, people couldn't afford them, there wasn't a demand for them...
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