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Old 09-25-2008, 05:24 PM   #31 (permalink)
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This isn't really relevant but I thought it was funny. Today I was driving around uptown and one of the big local towing companies' 2.5 ton rollback was in the oncoming lane, taking off from a red light. Just as I went by a cloud of blue smoke came out from under it and wafted in my window, with the same exact smell of my WMO/diesel blend.
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:03 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Yes sir, Waste Motor Oil (WMO) and auto trannie fluid along with other petrolium products will run in a diesel engine. You have the 6.0 and I have heard mixed results with it due to the weak fuel system. I have been running WMO and Diesel mix at 50%/50% and even up to 75%/25% with NO problems. The best my truck runs is on 50/50 with #2 diesel, when I run ULSD by itself I can tell a difference in how my truck runs, louder and dont pull as strong. Do a search on WMO and you will come across some interesting stuff.
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Old 09-26-2008, 08:28 AM   #33 (permalink)
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What are all these acronyms for? WMO and WATF????
And when you burn this stuff what comes out the tailpipe?
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:18 AM   #34 (permalink)
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WMO= Waste Motor Oil
WATF= Waste Automatic Transmission Fluid

As for when you burn it, exhaust comes out the tailpipe (sorry, I couldn't help myself). Seriously, nothing out of the ordinary. If you get your WMO blend really high, you might see a little more smoke. ATF is one of the best injector cleaners for a diesel engine you can use. My IDI runs great on both.
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:33 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Time to do some more research on this. My brother works on transmissions for a living!!! I think I could get all the WATF I need.
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Old 09-27-2008, 12:52 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Just as I went by a cloud of blue smoke came out from under it and wafted in my window, with the same exact smell of my WMO/diesel blend.
I guess my question was whether this stuff is harmful, as in carcinogenic. I wouldn't be driving a big diesel if I was a tree hugger - but at the same time I would rather not be afraid to breathe in my own exhaust fumes!
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I guess my question was whether this stuff is harmful, as in carcinogenic. I wouldn't be driving a big diesel if I was a tree hugger - but at the same time I would rather not be afraid to breathe in my own exhaust fumes!
You dont want to be breathing ANY exhaust fumes, diesel or gas. Gasoline is not the gasoline of yesteryear. Most if not all combusted petroleum sources produce carcinogens(cancer causing stuff), so nooooo snifffing the tailpipe
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Old 10-03-2008, 08:28 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I have a 03 powerstroke with 104,000 miles. We have been running WMO for about 50,000 of those.No problem.I run about 70% oil to 30% diesel.Our d-max has ran it since the day it was brought home It has about 35,000 miles,It is running a extremely built motor.No problems there either
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x2 on the no-sniffing-the-exhaust. It probably is very bad for the environment. *shrug*
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:53 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I have made up a centrifuge filter that takes the fluid down to 1 micron.Used the bowl advertised on this site.
I have put a water/diesel mix through it and complete seperation.
WVO results in a creamy sludge being seperated along with soot etc. Who would want to eat chips etc!
WMO results in a fine black sludge but the oil is still black. Microns below 1?
The advantage is no filter purchases or blocking.
So far the brews have been used in a small 4 cylinder work truck. Still not commited to the expensive 7.3 but it is not too far off.
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So far I've got 600 miles on mostly WATF with some WMO mixed at 80% oil 20% #2.

it ran great, I drove it for a week and a half myself to make sure it was doing alright. And today was the first day of my wife driving it and dropping my off at work and picking me up. With only using 20% diesel my MPG for purchased fuel is 70 MPPG (miles per purchased gallon)!!!!!!

I'm fillitering though a wix 16 micron fuel/water seperator and then a wix 2 micron fuel filter twice. Once into my mixing tank and then again as it goes from mixing tank to truck.

Starts good even in cold (~35 - 45 degrees) weather. Will plug it in tonight as it is supposed to drop down below freezing.

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any other people on here have newer trucks? I have an 04 psd with 6.0, I have used 100% wvo for a few tanks, then heard of the wmo that you are all running, I just brought home my first 55 gls from work, but after reading this thread I wonder about the newer DI motors. I am only planning on running at most a 50/50 mix probably more like 60/40 so who has run this stuff in di motors and how has it been.
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any other people on here have newer trucks? I have an 04 psd with 6.0, I have used 100% wvo for a few tanks, then heard of the wmo that you are all running, I just brought home my first 55 gls from work, but after reading this thread I wonder about the newer DI motors. I am only planning on running at most a 50/50 mix probably more like 60/40 so who has run this stuff in di motors and how has it been.
If your only asking about DI (direct injection) motors it works great as all 7.3l powerstrokes are DI. But I amsuming your asking about 6.0 motors and what not. There are a few in this thread that are running wmo in a 6.0, some say that it is not recomended because of lower injection preasures, but I really don't know. I do have a buddy running 100% waste compressor oil through his duramax. While it does run, his is hard to start cold and sluggish till it warms up. However my 75% waste oil 25% diesel mix starts great and doesn't seem to suffer even when cold.

So I've got just over 800 miles now. I am on my second 55 gallon drum of oil and my first 55 gallon drum netted me 76 MPPG (miles per perchased gallon)!

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thanks justin, all the info I can get is appreaciated. jsut have to sort through it and hope you accept the right info, these forums have so many diferent ideas and ways, it is hard to see the truth sometimes..
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I've been reading on here and other sites for months now about running WMO. I started out wanting to run WVO, but after reading about how hard it was getting to find as well as all the steps it takes to properly filter it, then heat it to run in the trucks, WMO just made more since to me.

I have made no modifications to my truck. I can filter and mix an entire 55 gallon drum in just over an hour (if its warmer, about two hours it its cold cause the oil is so thick). I've got about $300 in pump, filters, and plumbing. By the time I bought heaters for both the filtering and for the truck and all the extra plumbing for the washing of the oil etc.... I would have nearly been double the investment not to mention the extra time it takes. I just wish I had done this years ago.

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