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Old 05-09-2007, 12:06 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Jet Fuel A in 7.3's

ahh, just put a double dose of marvel mystery oil in it and it will be just fine. Just know where the fuel came from.
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Old 05-09-2007, 12:51 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Jet Fuel A in 7.3's

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I've flamed out quite a few times in helicopters because of that with resultant autorotations.

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Those really suck. You must be pretty good at it if you are still here talking about it. I was involved in one. Wish I didn't like helicopters so much.
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Old 05-09-2007, 01:42 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: Jet Fuel A in 7.3's

What were you doing to be in an autorotation? Actually an autorotation is a just another maneuver utilizing existing airspeed and altitude to a successful landing without power. I've done thousands of full down autorotations training advanced helicopter pilots from all over the world in emergency procedures and I've never broken a helicopter in 30 years of flying them. The scariest autos were in Kumertau, Russia training in a multi-engined dual co-axial rotor Kamov Ka-32C helicopter. They were eye openers! Now we are really off topic.
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To answer a couple of questions about JP-5. It is not dyed. It is taken from the aircraft low point drains after it settles for at least 2 hours after fueling before the 1st flight of the day. One of 2 things usually happens with it after that. (1) You either use it to fuel your diesel Ground Support Equipment (which you're not supposed to do, but some of us don't have the patience to wait for the fuel truck to come by and fuel you so you might as well use it as long as it's not contaminated with water and such). (2) You do the right thing and place the fuel samples in either a contaminated fuel drum or a non-contaminated fuel drum based on the outcome of the sample. When the drum is full the hazmat folks come by and take the drum and pay a civilian company to come and take it away. There are a few things to remember here. The fuel is payed for with squadron OPTAR funding which means you are burning fuel payed for by the US gov't. Just a quick sea story and then I'll let you go. Some sailors in Patuxet River Maryland were putting their AVGAS samples into their Privately Owned Vehicles and subsequently ended up going to Captain's mast and were reduced to the next inferior paygrade for doing so. Bottom line is "IT's ILLEGAL". Ask me how I know all this. I'm a 21 year active duty Chief Warrant Officer in the Navy and have held the positions of Material Control Officer and Maintenance Material Control Officer in a F/A-18E Super Hornet squadron.
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Yes, the psd will burn jet A. Mix it with a lubricant of some sort. I do not know what kind to use or the ratio. I have access to jet A but have elected not to burn it in mine.
too bad you arent closer to me.... Id mix it then burn it
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To answer a couple of questions about JP-5. It is not dyed. It is taken from the aircraft low point drains after it settles for at least 2 hours after fueling before the 1st flight of the day. One of 2 things usually happens with it after that. (1) You either use it to fuel your diesel Ground Support Equipment (which you're not supposed to do, but some of us don't have the patience to wait for the fuel truck to come by and fuel you so you might as well use it as long as it's not contaminated with water and such). (2) You do the right thing and place the fuel samples in either a contaminated fuel drum or a non-contaminated fuel drum based on the outcome of the sample. When the drum is full the hazmat folks come by and take the drum and pay a civilian company to come and take it away. There are a few things to remember here. The fuel is payed for with squadron OPTAR funding which means you are burning fuel payed for by the US gov't. Just a quick sea story and then I'll let you go. Some sailors in Patuxet River Maryland were putting their AVGAS samples into their Privately Owned Vehicles and subsequently ended up going to Captain's mast and were reduced to the next inferior paygrade for doing so. Bottom line is "IT's ILLEGAL". Ask me how I know all this. I'm a 21 year active duty Chief Warrant Officer in the Navy and have held the positions of Material Control Officer and Maintenance Material Control Officer in a F/A-18E Super Hornet squadron.

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I manage an aircraft fuel leak detection and repair company. Before we can perform maintenance we have to sump the residule fuel left in the wings that the defuel truck can't remove entirely due to the valves being a few inches from the bottom of the tank. Once this fuel is removed from the aircraft and put into any container other than a re/defuel truck it is considered contaminated and no longer airworthy. The company removing this left over fuel has two options. Pay a HAZMAT company to pick it up at a very high cost, or let the employees put it in their diesels. I personally purchased my 01' f250 for no other reason than to get free fuel. I have put over 75k on my 7.3 running nothing but Jet A. The only time I ever purchased diesel was when I ran low on fuel out in the boonies. The only problems I have had with my truck was trash clogging my tank inlet screen(a problem very easy to avoid by filtering, but I'm a pretty lazy person) and problems common to anybody who has a 7.3 with 250k+ miles. Your friends offer isn't totally legit. You can't transfer bulk amounts with out a CDL, and a bored DOT authority could possibly get you for non-taxed fuel(although the airline paid tax on it, thats my story and I'm sticking to it) If you filter it and don't let DOT know, you'll be fine. Its the opposite of stealing.
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