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Old 03-14-2005, 08:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Planning to convert to WVO, critique my ideas?

I'm still in the planning stages, here are my ideas:

WVO filtration:
gravity filter the oil through a mesh screen, then 100 micron bag, pour the oil into an electric hot water heater, heat to (120°F-130°F?)until the oil seperates (12-24 hours?), drain the water off the bottom, pump it through a 10 micron stacked paper disc filter (salvaged from a plating shop), and into storage.

Truck conversion (Ford Powerstroke):
coolant heated tank (hot stick or similar), aux fuel pump from tank to a primary filter (use oil filter relocate kit & 5 micron filter) then to a heated 2 micron filter/water seperator(coolant heat), to another in line heat exchanger, then into the 6 way valve. I can insulate the fuel lines if necessary.

I'm in Wisconsin, do you think I should have an additional electric heater right before the factory filter? I could mount it very close and switch it to run only with WVO.
I want to monitor fuel temp right before the factory filter, this should make it easy to determine when switched back to diesel and verify adequate WVO temperature.

Will a marine oil cooler(s) work to heat fuel, I see quite a few reasonably priced on Ebay.

What do you think? Anything I missed? to much? all thoughts appreciated.

Thanks,

Scott
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Re: Planning to convert to WVO, critique my ideas?

First off welcome to our little WVO world.

Your filtering and processing sounds good.

As far as your conversion plans.. pushing through a water/seperator is a no no as they are designed to be on the vacume side and no more than 3 psi on the pressure side and '99 and up PSD's deliver 65 psi or more.

Plan on insulating your fuel lines, the heat dissipation through them is high, its easier to insulate than add heat.

Marine oil coolers work great, the closer you mount them to the engine the better, don't forget to insulate that too.

I wouldn't worry to much about adding electric heat untill after you have your system together, try to maximize coolant heat as best you can as its waste heat, you can add electric elements later.

I have a glow plug heater I made for my filter head and have yet to install it..I really don't need it but I'll probably put it in when I get bored [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Re: Planning to convert to WVO, critique my ideas?

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First off welcome to our little WVO world.

Your filtering and processing sounds good.

As far as your conversion plans.. pushing through a water/seperator is a no no as they are designed to be on the vacume side and no more than 3 psi on the pressure side and '99 and up PSD's deliver 65 psi or more.

Plan on insulating your fuel lines, the heat dissipation through them is high, its easier to insulate than add heat.

Marine oil coolers work great, the closer you mount them to the engine the better, don't forget to insulate that too.

I wouldn't worry to much about adding electric heat untill after you have your system together, try to maximize coolant heat as best you can as its waste heat, you can add electric elements later.

I have a glow plug heater I made for my filter head and have yet to install it..I really don't need it but I'll probably put it in when I get bored [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]

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Glow plug heater in the oil? There was a guy that did this in a Mercedes and the glow plug ignited the oil and caused a car fire.
BAD idea!
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Re: Planning to convert to WVO, critique my ideas?

I have my doubts about that, you need air to support combustion and its all liquid fuel in the lines.
That would also mean all those millions of Perkins with the feed through glow plugs in the intakes would be a bomb.

And then what about all of us that use water heater elements in processing WVO and bio diesel?
the only difference between a water heater element and a glow plug is one runs on 115vac and the other runs at 12vdc.

BTW, one of the pioneers in WVO danalinscott has designed and sold plans for glow plug based wvo heaters.

All I can say is if you heard someone say a glow plug ignited a fire in their car you might want to ask how bad the fuel leak was before the fire.
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P_S_D I'd investigate a flamesuit if I were you [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img] Umh err I mean if you have a leak ya know.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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