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Old 11-25-2012, 08:51 AM   #91 (permalink)
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mtrans - I'm thinking about how to do that. Like I said I am very poor at these things but I would like it so I will keep at it. Since the first one works, I'm beginning to wonder about the color of the second one wondering if that is a bad batch of lights. I may try another color. I hook the llights up directly to the battery before installing just to be sure they are working. Work fine that way including multipul times off and on. I'm guessing some kind of surge in amerage may be doing it when the solenoid kicks on.
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I was wondering about water quality for this use. Some are using tap water, others recommend only distilled water. I was wondering about using the reverse ion water. It is mostly demineralized and I can get it for five gallons for a $. Why not?
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:06 AM   #93 (permalink)
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I was wondering about water quality for this use. Some are using tap water, others recommend only distilled water. I was wondering about using the reverse ion water. It is mostly demineralized and I can get it for five gallons for a $. Why not?
Distilled or reverse ion would probably be best, just to keep minerals and crud from building up in the system after a long period of time. But I wouldn't hesitate to use tap water either.
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:09 PM   #94 (permalink)
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You would hesitate to use my tap water. I live on the farm and have enough iron in the water to build bridges.
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mtrans - the hook up is hot wire is split and goes to #1 switch and then to #2 switch. On the other side of the switch, the wire from #1 is spilt and goes to solenoid pump and LED. The wire from #2 is split and goes to #2 solenoid and #2 LED.

The information on the package is: build in resistor, Forward supply voltage 12.0 typ, Forward supply current 15mA typ 25mA max, built in 680 resistor. If that helps you solve it I would appreciate any advice.
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:06 PM   #96 (permalink)
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well it`s NOT same as I see,try to wire like 1 solenoid,specialy if after 2 sol + go from swich then then from another contact go to led and then - .
or I mean it`s have to be like
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mtrans, that is pretty much what I have. My neighbor, an electrician, came over yesterday and we went through the whole thing with a meter and he could find no reason for what is going on. The LED was fried. Max volts for the LED was listed at 16 volts. All other functions of the system were working perfectly. All appliances were receivig 12.7 volts with the truck at high rpm. I'm going to try wiring in an extra resistor today and see if that will solve the problem.
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You would hesitate to use my tap water. I live on the farm and have enough iron in the water to build bridges.
I wouldn't use the tap water your describing but I would use rain water.
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Never thought of rain water. What a good idea.
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:55 PM   #100 (permalink)
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Well, I pulled the burned light and wired a resistor in series with a new LED and gave her a try. Instead of burning out in 10 seconds, it lasted 20 seconds. I was looking right at it when it went. Came on dim, flashed bright for a few seconds then dark. Gone.

Oh well, I know that injector is working and that is what is important. I don't have any more time to fool with it before I leave for Kansas so will let it go for now.
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Jerry, how bout an update. WI working for you?
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:47 AM   #102 (permalink)
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The good the bad and the very ugly

First the good. I towed Dad's car back from Kansas (690 miles) and got 16 mpg towing 65 mph. I thought that was terrific. The bad, we had to take Dad's car because he could no longer tell which pedal he was stepping on. Our society is not made for people without wheels.

The very ugly. The WI system did not work. That is not to say it did not stop smoking, it did not ever work for any length of time. I had a single stretch of 88 miles that I got it to work by hot wiring it and bypassing the switches. While in Kansas, I found two bad connections and corrected that but it still did not work. I finally had to drain the bottle in Iowa because I was heading into cold weather and did not want to take the chance it would freeze. If you want to know my true feelings about this think bomb squad or artillery or some other appropriate method of blowing it up.

Yesterday, I removed the whole works from the truck. I have it set up so that I can run it off of a battery in the refinery while I work on other projects. I'm going to run at least 10 gallons of water through the system before it goes back in the truck.

Causes for failure? 1) poor electrical connections or weak power source or ground 2) equipment failure 3) ????? I will continue to pursue this because as little as I was able to get it to work at home it did seem to stop smoking.

I started with a dirty engine because I wanted to test the ability of the WI to clean the engine up. While driving, my LED indicator light was on and I thought it was working until I stopped and checked the system and it had used no water. At that point, the truck was rapidly turning into a mosquito fogger and I had to start adding D2 to clean it up. I used about 50/50 for the trip. I had hoped to clean up the engine and use 100% W80.

Back to the drawing board.
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If you want, pm me the details of your setup and maybe we can figure out what went wrong.

I've had my water injection going for about a month, and have since only bought about 10 gallons of d2 because I didn't have enough oil. This batch is on the thick side so it smoked just a little on startup and takeoff until the motor was totally warmed up, but I added a little rug and it seems to be better now. Other than that I have had absolutely no smoking. Normally by now the truck would be smoking like an old train but it is not smoking at all, and I am even running much less D2 in my mix than before. I really think WI is the ticket to prevent smoke with WMO. Now to piece together a really nice 2 stage system.

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I'm working toward a two stage system. I have all the stuff and had it installed and it ran when I tested it before putting the injectors in the CAC. Once in, it has worked very little to not at all. For a diagram of the setup, go to the Cooling Mist website and look at their drawing for a stage one system. That is what I have except I am trying to add LED indicator lights.

What little I have been able to get it to work, I think you are right, this should go a long way to fix the only real problem I have had with burning W80. Hopefully, before the day is over, I will have it running in the garage so I can see what parts are failing - not working and correct or replace as needed. More later.
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Found the problem. The small jet was completely blocked. Good thing I had a recirculating pump so it did not burn up. Now to get it all put back together. With any luck, pics will follow.
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