It's definitely interesting.
No, I'm not advocating the use of this theory, but I'm willing to debate it.
Seems like if it truly separates the hydrogen from the oxygen, then as a gas, it would be a usable fuel source. Of course, it would be completely unregulated and unpredictable. But still it could work a little.
After first reading, I was trying to figure out who would add distilled h20 to the fuel... we fight so much to get rid of it.
The scam site filled in the blanks. This is not new technology, right? I just thought the power needed to produce electrolysis outweighed the hydrogen production.....
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-1979 F250 4x4 with 33", gas 302. All farm truck, more rust than truck, more spunk than Chevy.
-1970 Ford 3400 tractor, 3cyl diesel with a cracked loader ( no longer cracked, I learned how to weld, yeeeaahhh! )
-1983 White/Herc 6cyl deisel 65kw genset that provides 180A to the house PRN.
Yeah, you don't add water to the fuel at all. You have a separate container of water and the electrolosis separates the hydrogen from the oxygen and forms a brown hydrogen gass (two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen). The little bit of gas is then piped into the intake where it mixes with the intake air and is burned that way. Kinda like a propane fogger or nitrous fogger.
What would spook me is the temeratures that are created. Hydrogen burns crazy hot with the oxygen mixed in. It could be bad for the valves and valve seats since its not regulated. Also what happens if you have an intercooler and you end up with a fair amount of gas in all that intake and then for some reason under hard acceleration you have a situation where the gas would ignite prior to entering the combustion chamber and then the whole damn intake system explodes. That might not happen, but hey it could.
It's definitely interesting.
No, I'm not advocating the use of this theory, but I'm willing to debate it.
Seems like if it truly separates the hydrogen from the oxygen, then as a gas, it would be a usable fuel source. Of course, it would be completely unregulated and unpredictable. But still it could work a little.
A buddy of mine built one from water for gas and lost 2mpg do to the computer trying to compinsate. I built one from waterpoweredcar.com, and made my own map sensor enhanser and gained 3mpg, on an old gasser. I've heard of 6-7mpg with a different system I'm going to try. I don't think anyone should try it unless you fully understand how hydrogen works in a engine, so do your homework.
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water molecules have 2hydrogen atoms a 1oxygen atom. By running an electical charge usually with stainless steel plates through water and an electrolite usually baking soda, you can seperate the water into a gas. It only takes 2 volts to produce this gas . This 2-1 ratio helps to completely burn the fuel in the clyinder. Since hydrogen is 1000 times more flamable than gas and oxygen aids in the burn, when you use high amounts of this gas you need to modify the engine timing. This stuff burns fast. most units I've seen produce about 1 Quart of gas per minute. Hydrogen generators burn the gas thay produce so you don't have to store large amounts. This can be a very dangerous gas so I dont suggest anyone playing around with it unless you do your research. I've been experimenting with it for about six months and every week I learn somthing new. As far as valve damage I've only heard of it with the guys trying to run 100%. This is not a new Idea its been around since about 1901. If you want to learn more about it there's alot of free info on the net. I started by studying brown's gas then went to home made hydrogen generators. waterpoweredcars.com is a good site. Something else thats cool is wood gas.
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I have a buddy that ordered a water for gas kit and put it on his 92 Z71 and his cousin put one on his 2001 f250 power stroke at the same time. They put one jar on both of them. They`ve been running the systems for 2 months and I have personnally seen the Z71 go from getting 270 miles to a tank of gas to 400!!! His cousin says he is getting 25 MPG unloaded and 21 MPG loaded! This is crazy. I`m really wanting to put one on my super duty but I`m just scared about the long term wear on the motor. Do you guys see this hurting my motor or not? The savings would be great but the cost of a new motor right now would kill me.
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6 position 4 bank Bullydog chip
6.5" Procomp Suspension lift
36x14.50 Ground Hawg 2`s on
16.5x12 Micky Thompson Classic 2 wheels.
Factory exhaust Straight Piped
AIS Severe Duty Air Intake
2002 Excursion 4x4 Limited Ultimate, 7.3, Saddlewood color,Rear buckets,two tone leather,DVD,K&N Cold Air Intake, Bullydog 4 bank 6 position chip
I'm w/ ricky. I'm really wanting to throw one of these under the hood but the thousands of dollars it would cost for a new (or even used) 7.3 scares the crap out of me. If anyone has any "long term" findings or even 6 months of consistent use lets hear about them. Fuel mileage before and after, any adverse effects?
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05' ex cab, 4x4, auto, dually, bully dog power pup, 4" turbo back exhaust to 3" y-piped dual exhaust, 254k miles
Old truck F250
99 (3/98), 4x4, crew, auto, SB, Bully Dog 4 bank(50,75,100,125), homemade tymar, 4" turbo back straight pipe, 305/70/16 buckshots on 16x10 Pro Comp Xtreme 4x4 wheels
I have a buddy that ordered a water for gas kit and put it on his 92 Z71 and his cousin put one on his 2001 f250 power stroke at the same time. They put one jar on both of them. They`ve been running the systems for 2 months and I have personnally seen the Z71 go from getting 270 miles to a tank of gas to 400!!! His cousin says he is getting 25 MPG unloaded and 21 MPG loaded! This is crazy. I`m really wanting to put one on my super duty but I`m just scared about the long term wear on the motor. Do you guys see this hurting my motor or not? The savings would be great but the cost of a new motor right now would kill me.
I have been doing a lot of research on this as of late and I think one of the most attractive aspects of this system is that it burns cleaner. Supposedly helps clean out cylinders, pistons and rings, by removing carbon buildup. I have been warned that there are a few models of vehicles where there is very little benefit as far as mileage is concerned. Those are v10 dodge gassers, Toyotas, and 6.0 and 7.3 liter Powerstrokes. Reasons were not given as to why. I am going to install one for cleaner burning benefits primarily and if I receive any mpg's gains then great. Most of the units you will find for sale will be a 4 to 6 plate generator. I believe for our liter capacity we will need minimum of 8 to 10 plate generators. Maybe even 12.
Dave
Is it really a scam?
if you don't satisfy you can asked for refund..no more pain
You don't have to try something to understand that it works.
I've seen facts on the news and all over the Internet, that running a car on water IS possible.
Even that I haven't tried doing it, it doesn't mean that it's impossible.
Have you searched for other sites? Did you see it?
may be you should see this.... it's has review many sites like water4gas,runyourcaronwater etc.
You can truly get better mileage...... CarWaterGuide.blogspot.com
i made some cells from water for gas instructions and put three on my lil chev S10 and it runs reaal good on it even with its jacked up or messed up carb,, gettin like 30mpg if i keep it at 55,never got that before,
i also put one on my 91 hoss and it runs reallllly good now, really crisp acceleration but more black smoke or dark gray on acceleration as it is bout 50% wmo, don't know why more smoke though, but the cruise holds it on hills now so am a believer, dont have a fuel tank gauge as i have never figured out what was wrong with it, but am gonna add another cell to it and see what she does, my friends dad made one using plates instead of stainless steel wire like mine and it works better, might try that design, but they are easy to make and i just made a hole on my breathers side and put tube in it ran the hose to that and wahlah,,
I don't believe in that law of physics as it is just a theory as everything else till proven wrong,
peace brothers
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91 f250 4x4,, e rated tires,,cab lights,,,straitpiped to rear,,,,brand spankin new cd player,,,flatbed with gooseneck,,,one hellava bale hauler,,,
International 856 wide front and a super h wide front ,, both have three points for haulin those bales.
63 w200 power wagon 17.5 inch e rated tires,,4 spd, 410's plus a six popper, she's a lil slow but she'll go anywhere yu point her
New to fleet 95 dodge 3500 EXT CAB 4x4 5 spd cummins power, 4 inch exhaust,
i made some cells from water for gas instructions and put three on my lil chev S10 and it runs reaal good on it even with its jacked up or messed up carb,, gettin like 30mpg if i keep it at 55,never got that before,
i also put one on my 91 hoss and it runs reallllly good now, really crisp acceleration but more black smoke or dark gray on acceleration as it is bout 50% wmo, don't know why more smoke though, but the cruise holds it on hills now so am a believer, dont have a fuel tank gauge as i have never figured out what was wrong with it, but am gonna add another cell to it and see what she does, my friends dad made one using plates instead of stainless steel wire like mine and it works better, might try that design, but they are easy to make and i just made a hole on my breathers side and put tube in it ran the hose to that and wahlah,,
I don't believe in that law of physics as it is just a theory as everything else till proven wrong,
peace brothers
Pretty cool!!!!though. it runs better than any of the other amphibious vehicles out there now that i have seen.
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Douglas Campbell
November 5, 2008: The fat lady sang. Back to actually working for a living.
1986 Isuzu P'up, 177,673.8 miles. Hella headlights, (highly recommended) DOT C-2 back end. (also recommended) R-12 air conditioner converted to R-406a. 4.1:1 rear axle converted to 3.4:1.
9/22/2007, age 21: Still running well when reluctantly sent away for reincarnation due to rust.
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