What does biodiesel cost now that diesel is over 2.00 everywhere and I would think that it is higher than that in some places. I rememeber that 5 or 6 months ago there was some talk about it. I think that diesel was costing about 1.75 and biodiesel was .30 or .40 higher. Well I'm thinking biodiesel should be the same price as diesel or less. What about it?
Let's grow our diesel. Let's see how much our american farmers can grow.
I'ld pay .25 to .50 more for biodiesel if I could find it in my area rather than send anymore money to the middle east.
I called a place in TN. I got there No. off of www.biodiesel.org and they said 2.09. I don't know if this has tax, if it is 100% or if it is a blend but that is what I just payed last week for reg diesel.
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Here in Texas, it ranges from $2.75(Dallas)-$3.40(Austin) per gal.
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DD
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I would have a hard time justifing that much of a differance but I think most people are trying to keep the American dallor in the American economy. Using biodiesel will increase demand for soybean production which will eventually encrease the price of soybeans. This will make soybean production more profitable for the American farmer. A more profitable American farmer will boost the economy in the heartland and filter out to manufacturing for equipment and etc.
The gov. has already put in place tax incentives which will lower the cost of biodiesel which may not be showing up at the pump yet. It is actually a pretty good encentive. It is like 1 penny per percent of biodiesel used per gal. The example I saw was for B20 which would make it 20 cent less on the gal. This was based of of july diesel cost of 1.52 and a B20 biodiesel cost of 1.70 which would make B20 right back at the same cost of reg. diesel. This was suppose to be some national average at the time.
For what it is worth there is incentive for Americans to buy biodiesel but maybe not enough yet but just hang on, I think there are enough of us that want it to push it along.
There are great enviromental gains from it too. But we could cut down on emmisions as diesel enthusiasts if we could resist jabbing the peddle when an open windowed sports cars pulls up perpendicularly underneath our open smoker pipe at a stop light.
Heaven forbid that they try to beat us to next light and I bet they don't try it again if they can see afterward.
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Here in Texas, it ranges from $2.75(Dallas)-$3.40(Austin) per gal.
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So why would anyone buy it? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
DD
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That's for 100% Bio. People mix it from 5%-20%. It is hard to justify the cost, I will give you that. I recently (last week) put a mixture of 16% (I put in 5gal of 100% bio to 31 gal of diesel) bio and the engine has quieted down considerably (could also be because the weather is a little cooler) and my mileage seems to have improved some. I will have to wait another 150-200 miles before I fill up again and actually know for sure. I am going to run it in the tank a few more times and get some actuall mileage facts over three or four tank fulls. It's supposed to have a much better lubricating factor as well and the best part is that my exhaust fumes smell much better now (almost like fried food [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]), not that I make a habit of putting my head by the tail pipe. Then there is the factor that it is better for the enviroment. It is much more readily available in the north/ northeast states. It would probably be much cheaper but then again, diesel is much more expensive there as well.
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I just checked a few days ago in Denver. $3.03/gal in one place, $3.85/gal another.
I won't buy it at that price.
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Neither will I.
Blue Sun has been jacking up the price of biodiesel as the price of regular diesel goes up. I call that being greedy and trying to screw the consumer every bit as much as the major oil companies are accused of doing. They jacked up their B-100 price 20 cents about two weeks ago and they lost me as a customer. Screw them. I plan to occasionally buy some B-100 just to use as a B-5 fuel additive, but that's it, and I'm buying the Re-Fine stuff in Boulder instead of Blue Sun when I do.
The contract price of soybean oil has *dropped*
~15% since August or around 25-30 cents a gallon, but Blue Sun has continually been raising their price at the same time. If I sound unhappy with them, you're right.
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IMO, the best way to do it is to get a 55g drum, and add it in yourself.
Buying B20 is kind of a joke, because youll be through a 55g drum in a few weeks. B100, on the other hand, used in 5g increments, should last quite a while.
I would not hesitate to use "red" BD in a tank. Screw our greedy government.
BTW, has anyone acually seen red BD?
Here the price for off road BD is 3.41. That was pry 2 months ago.
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This will make soybean production more profitable for the American farmer. A more profitable American farmer will boost the economy in the heartland and filter out to manufacturing for equipment and etc.
The gov. has already put in place tax incentives which will lower the cost of biodiesel which may not be showing up at the pump yet.
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These ideas are all nice, but...
As I have read, the crop of soybeans that American farmers produce is not the best crop for biodiesel production. There are better alternatives.
Additionally, you're only going to get the benefit of tax incentives if you pay taxes on your biodiesel in the form of road taxes, etc.
So, until then...
I can see the benefits to the enviornment, but until you can make it marketable to the general consumer....which is the trucking industry....it's going to flounder. If you MAKE everyone use it....well, what doesn't get somewhere by train or truck...everything will cost every consumer more money.
Free market needs to rule.
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