I wanna run my F-350 on grease. I can get plenty of oil (corn & cottonseed) free from a pizzaria. My truck has factory dual fuel tanks, IDI diesel, & the Reading body has toolboxes on both sides, with a 4x8' box in the center. I need the box to not have a tank in it. What I was thinking was this: add a small tank (like, 5-10 gallons) for #2, & convert the 2 tanks to something like Greasel's "split" clean/dirty tank.
Something like this: Pump "dirty" WVO into the rear tank, start on #2 from the auxiliary (even 5 gallons would get me ~80 miles), heat the 2 WVO tanks. When it's nice & hot, flip the tank transfer pump switch. When there's enough in the front tank, switch to running on grease (obviously, I would not feed the engine off the rear fuel tank anymore).
Maybe wire my factory "FRONT/REAR" tank switch to "WVO/#2"?
Uhh, any ideas?
Also, I really can't afford to drop $2000+ for this (or go to Missouri to have it done). Anyone put it together themselves?
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There have been many successful homebrew WVO setups made. Mainly you just have to figure out a way to heat that oil to 180*F before it hits the pump, plus remember to start on diesel or biodiesel and purge the system for about 5 minutes on diesel/biodiesel before you cut her off. I don't see why you couldn't use a samll pony tank and plumb it into the fuel system for #2. It might be nice to have more than 5 gallons especially if you live where it gets cold in teh winter or start and stoop your truck a lot. Maybe could use one of those 12 gallon boat gas tanks? Good luck,a nd let us know what you decide.
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Anyone used a semi-truck fuel tank heater to preheat the WVO?
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using the two tanks is a nice idea--one problem--how long before you have the rear dirty tank fuel of sludge and bits of meat--then how to clean it out???????????????????? pre clean and strain the grease before put in the tanks--thats what i do---will figure out the heat problem before winter-----------
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Is it possible to put filtered WVO in the stock tank and the use the tank change switch. Start, purge, and all that stuff on #2 and flip the switch to WVO in the other tank?? Can the stock fuel system do this, will this work at all or is it a crazy idea??
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a little off topic, is it just me or could a step be taken out of the PITA that starting on #2 and stoping on #2? sounds like a temp sensor on the WVO tank is needed to switch the tanks and then the turbo cool down feature on a car alarm could also acuate the valve back to #2 for a period of say 10 min? then theres no remembering. Im too dumb for that myself, think ima just brew bio in the garage.....
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yes--just shut them off and use dzl in winter--but the idea of wvo is year round to save on fuel costs-----
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It seems like it wouldn't be too hard to run some coolant around to the fuel tank area. Just run split off the heater core supply and that'll get you hot coolant back there. But how do you utilize this hot coolant to heat the WVO? Just running it in hoses wouldn't get the whole tank of WVO hot enough, would it?
Most conversion kits utilize some kind of heat exchanger in the veggie oil tank. Some of them look like (and may in fact be) transmission coolers, and others use some type of copper pipe matrix like this one.
Is there a way to mount an element similar to a water heater or block heater through the side of the tank? Most of these are 110v not 12v though. I wonder if mounting a power inverter (or is a converter)to run these from the 12v to 110v would work?
About that block heater, i don't know if that'd be a good idea. Using coolant, the stuff is already hot and doesn't use up any extra energy. Just uses energy that's already there.
Sure would suck if one of your coolant lines broke inside the WVO tank and you started burning coolant mixed with WVO. Wonder how that'd effect injectors. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif[/img]
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I saw in JC Whitney a 38 gallon replacement tank that goes where the rear tank mounts in '80-'96 trucks. It's not to be used for diesel, but I would imagine that WVO woudldn't be bothered. I could be wrong.
As far as heating the oil, you have to run your fuel line inside a coolant line (called a "hose in hose" HIH) and then you tee off at the fuel tank and tie into a heat exchanger inside the tank. I think a lot of guys when they build their own tank they just add a couple loops of 1/2 or 5/8" soft copper coils inside and stub the ends out where they can be tied onto with the coolant lines. If you bought the 38 gallon tank, cut it in half and then welded it back and sealed it, you'd have a seriously nice setup I believe.
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