6.0L Power Stroke Engine and DrivetrainDiscussion of the 6.0L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2003-Up Super Duties and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.0L Power Stroke engine.
alright so here's my deal. I want to know if any of you experience this same thing happening to your turbo. It just started happening to mine AFTER I had it at the dealership for a transmission flush, oil change, coolant system flush AND the controle module recall(which they coulnd't do because of the edge). (keep in mind I can always hear my turbo "whistling") After driving it for about 15mins and I come to a stop light or even a drive thru and the truck is in drive and has been stopped for at least 45sec to 1min it sounds like the turbo winds down to almost a complete stop. It sounds like a 7.3 or cummins or big rig as it idles with NO turbo whistle. As soon as I push the pedal down it easily winds back up and souns like it always has. I called the service manager and he told me this was normal and that the truck is "saving" the turbo and it was doing this because of the recall they did. I reminded him he didn't do the recall because of the chip and he said to bring it in. Is this normal? (my egt's are completely normal. 700 to 800 @ 75mph.)
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I called the service manager and he told me this was normal and that the truck is "saving" the turbo and it was doing this because of the recall they did.
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I love it when people make stupid statements like that. May I ask if the engine is doing this with your tune installed and are you SURE the modules were not reprogrammed? At idle, you shouldn't normally be hearing the turbo whining unless the idle is elevated and or the VGT is closed to raise back pressure during cold operation. Of course, if you have installed an aftermarket intake strainer and have opened up your exhaust, you will hear more noise from the turbo than a stock truck and it looks as though you have.
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]unless it is extremely loud then they might not have removed the ficm relay to bring the oil pressure up to prelube the bearings in the turbo. thats the procedure i do everytime i replace one. yours maybe normal though. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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I called the service manager and he told me this was normal and that the truck is "saving" the turbo and it was doing this because of the recall they did.
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I love it when people make stupid statements like that. May I ask if the engine is doing this with your tune installed and are you SURE the modules were not reprogrammed? At idle, you shouldn't normally be hearing the turbo whining unless the idle is elevated and or the VGT is closed to raise back pressure during cold operation. Of course, if you have installed an aftermarket intake strainer and have opened up your exhaust, you will hear more noise from the turbo than a stock truck and it looks as though you have.
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The tune has been installed for a year or so and the turbo never made the noise. And the same guy told me they couldn't do the recall because of the edge and that they were gonna mark down that they did it so I could register the truck. thanks for your input.
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]unless it is extremely loud then they might not have removed the ficm relay to bring the oil pressure up to prelube the bearings in the turbo. thats the procedure i do everytime i replace one. yours maybe normal though. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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thanks for your help dieselmech, Im gonna ask him today or tomorrow. any more input or opinion on this would be appreciated guys. has anybody else noticed their truck do this? I find it odd it only does it after I get it back from the dealer. I'll post an update after I get back from the dealer.
My new 03 does the same thing. As soon as you stop the truck, it always whines. Let it sit, it goes silent, Then has a nice rumbull to it, then you can hear it spool back up and whine. Noticed it today while I was filling up with fuel. Normal?
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My new 03 does the same thing. As soon as you stop the truck, it always whines. Let it sit, it goes silent, Then has a nice rumbull to it, then you can hear it spool back up and whine. Noticed it today while I was filling up with fuel. Normal?
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I went and talked to the service manager today. He said that because they did a transmission flush and coolant flush that my truck is running cooler so it's sending different signals to the turbo and the turbo is able to shut it self down to "save" itself. Dont know if he's blowing smoke up my ass or what but I asked for an oasis report (thx to this site I now know what this is) and the truck has the original turbo and injectors and egr and has not been in for any major replacement or malfunction. It's nice to read that your truck is doing the same thing, takes a little weight off my shoulders. Anybody have any other input or opinions? thanks.
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] sorry, i did'nt read your first post well enough. i thought you had had a turbo installed. being my birthday today & so much do do today i was exited. but it would be something to take into consideration someday. it is a normal!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/warmsmile.gif[/img]
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]unless it is extremely loud then they might not have removed the FICM relay to bring the oil pressure up to prelube the bearings in the turbo. thats the procedure i do every time i replace one. yours maybe normal though. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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The reason for removing the FICM relay during module programing is to prevent damage to the #1 fuel injector and or injector driver in the FICM itself. For some reason or condition, the injector is energized during module recalibration. The relay we remove during the procedure shuts off the power feed that the FICM uses to power the injectors but not the module itself. That is why you are still able to reprogram the FICM.
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I went and talked to the service manager today. He said that because they did a transmission flush and coolant flush that my truck is running cooler so it's sending different signals to the turbo and the turbo is able to shut it self down to "save" itself. Don't know if he's blowing smoke up my ass or what but I asked for an oasis report (thx to this site I now know what this is)
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Another line of BS given to you by this service manager. If your engine were running cooler, that would get you closer to a cold engine idle strategy where the idle would be slightly elevated and the VGT would be closing to raise back pressure. The result of that would be the turbo spooling up at idle and you would have that whistle and air rushing sound. If your truck is running differently than before you brought it in, I suspect you more than the "royal flush."
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Sounds to me like the latest strategy for an '03. Mine will cycle the turbo vanes when at a warm idle with warm ambiant temps... With Cold ambiant temps the vanes close and idle speed will vary with current engine temp...
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Another line of BS given to you by this service manager. If your engine were running cooler, that would get you closer to a cold engine idle strategy where the idle would be slightly elevated and the VGT would be closing to raise back pressure. The result of that would be the turbo spooling up at idle and you would have that whistle and air rushing sound. If your truck is running differently than before you brought it in, I suspect you more than the "royal flush."
sound like they reflashed your truck, I bet if you check your strategy they re programmed it.
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Do you have the Edge/Attitude or Edge Platinum ?
If you have the Edge/Attitude they can do a re-flash but you won`t get a complete flash,the trans won`t get the up-date.
Been there done that.
2 years ago I had the basic Edge/Att on and the tech did a re-flash,several months later I tried the Edge Evo for trans controls and it would not take.
The stratigy codes read recent engine up-dates,but the trans was old codes from 2 years earlier the last flash with no power programs.
I removed the edge and went back to the dealer and got a complete flash again then the EVO took.
If you have the Edge Platinum it would not take any flash at all.
The answer to how do you find out?
Find someone with a Xcal 2 it will read the stratigys even thru the Edge Att or Edge Plat,but you cannot program anything in with the Edge Plat installed.
Been there done that as well.
And it will not mess up any programs thats in someone else`s Xcal 2 if used for reading stratigys only.
Once you get the stratigy get with one of the sct dealers to get what up-dates you have you might be [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img].
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