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Old 12-10-2005, 02:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement?

Does anyone have any information on how to chage out the glow plugs on the new 6.0 PSD's? I have an 03 EB Excursion 6.0 with 67k miles. Been having a lot of problems when starting cold it bellows white smoke for around 3 to 5 minutes or until warm. Once warm the thing runs and starts fine. I figure its a bad glow plug since #7 hit 9ohms im going to change all eight but do not have a clue on these new 6.0's how to change them. I know the 7.3 you had to take the v-covers off. Any information ???
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Re: 2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement?

<font color="blue">Here</font> is the glow plug procedure. What weight oil you using and how cold is it? 10W-30 makes a huge difference in the 6.0 during cold starting procedures.
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Re: 2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement?

Thanks for the link, but that just talks about how to change out the sleeves and not much on the glow plugs. I did find out that the 6.0's are now made so you do not have to pull the v-covers. But I am still at a loss on how to do it.

I am using the FMC 15/40 oil. The problem has gotten a lot worse and really doesnt matter what the temp is outside. It's doing it in the low 30's all the way to the upper 80's. It's almost happening on every single start-up now, no matter how long between starts. I keep the water drained from the collector as well.

I sure hope someone can give me some direction. Come on, Please?????
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Re: 2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement?

My '03 CC was doing the same thing. It did not matter what temp. it was outside. I finally took it to the dealer and they changed quite a few sensors plus reflashed it. It would have been an expensive trip but I have an extended warranty. BTW, they did not change any of my glow plugs.

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Re: 2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement?

Uhhh yeah, you don't want to pull the sleeves! If your truck is less than 5 years old and has less than 100,000 miles the glow plugs and the control module/relay are covered under the diesel engine warranty.

The reason I mention this is that the glow plug system has diagnostic capabilities and can tell you which plugs (if any) have failed. Quite often, removing the glow plug buss bar or harness turns disastrous as the plastic sockets can break off in the head and are NOT fun to remove! I would hate to see you go through that and replace good glow plugs only to have the same problem. I have seen more bad modules and faulty wiring than I have glow plugs on the 6.0L. You can test the glow plugs with a 12V test light if you really feel the need to do so.
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Re: 2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement? DTC Codes Added

Yeah your right about the cheap plastic. And the location of the rails dont help matters much so if that is my problem looks like I will leave it to the dealer [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/vomit.gif[/img].

As an update, I was able to pull these DTC codes but now I am pulling my hair out trying to find my book to tell me what they mean. Does anyone here know what these codes stand for or where I might be able to find them on the net [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]?

P0102
P0402
P1260
U2060

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Re: 2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement? DTC Codes Added

P0102 = Mass or Volume air circuit low
P0402 = EGR flow excessive detected (possibly stuck or sticking)
P1260 = Theft detetced, vehilce immobilized
U2060 = not in the book I just read these out of?
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Re: 2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement? DTC Codes Added

P0102 = Mass or Volume air circuit low. Fixed this last week, the sensor on the air box broke right in half which in return shot a signal to the cpm saying my air filter was dirty. Had to install a new sensor.

P0402 = EGR flow excessive detected (possibly stuck or sticking). Haven't looked into this matter. Could it be the EGR Valve causing this? Should still be under warranty if it is.

P1260 = Theft detetced, vehilce immobilized. Fixed this almost 3 weeks ago. Had one of my alarm wires come loose which shut down the truck while I was doing 75mph on I-75. Not fun.

U2060 = not in the book I just read these out of? Wornder what this could be? Might have to call FMC to find out.

Thanks for the information.
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U2060= ECU redundant power circut open [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

No clue but hope it helps.

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Re: 2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement? DTC Codes Added

Being dropped off at the dealer tomorrow morning. Will let everyone know how she turns out.
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Re: 2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement? DTC Codes Added

Ok, so the dealer has had my truck for the last two days and still hasn't even pulled it into the bay to take a look at it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] Guessing all I can do id wait unless anyone has any ideas [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

The saga continues.
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Re: 2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement? DTC Codes Added

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U2060= ECU redundant power circut open [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

No clue but hope it helps.

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Fuse blown? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Re: 2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement? DTC Codes Added

Ok, so the dealer gave me a call to tell me the jiff about my problems.

#1: Turbo is shot and is stuck wide open.
#2: 2 injectors have blown their tips off.
#3: EGR Valve and Cooler are shot.
#4: 2 other sensors are shot. (can't remember what two because by now im passed out on the floor.
#5: Says there is evidence of a programmer being used so my warranty is no good [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img].
#6: Almost 6k to cover everything.

My ole my what a wornderful day. Pleanty of rain rain rain....

Any Ideas here [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img] Or should I just trade the thing in for an 06 350 6.0 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Re: 2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement? DTC Codes Added

And it actually ran at all???
Seems like quite a list.
Have you had it since new, or could the previous owner have used a programmer?
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Re: 2003 6.0 Glow Plug Replacement? DTC Codes Added

I have used the Power Pup programmer to try and correct the rough idle and the white smoke. BUT only after the dealer told me time and time again there was nothing wrong with the truck, said they all run like that. What BS that is because it never ran like that until a couple of months ago. Nothing was ever set out of range and the truck has been well taken care of. Kinda funny I read about everyone else having around the same problems, but the say mine is because of a programmer [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]. Can't win for loosing.
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