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Old 06-19-2010, 10:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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6.0 blowing white smoke

My cousin has am 05 6liter w 140k on it. Its blowing white smoke. What does that mean? He said it runs great just blowing white smoke when first started and on take offs. Thanks
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White smoke could be different things. What does it smell like? sweet like coolant, or like fuel. Is it smoke that hangs around or a cloud that goes away quickly?
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Mine was doing this as well and it would do it when I throttled off from highway speeds more so when at high operating temp, no quite as much when in town and putting around. It turned out to be the EGR cooler. Is he losing coolant? Is the EGR valve wet or the coking looks gooey? Took me 8 hours work and 300$ to fix it myself with hand tools in the driveway,or if your flush 2000k at a mechanic.
It could also be head gaskets, ficm, or injectors probably needs to be diagnosed and then choose your fix from there.
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if your losing coolant its most likely the egr cooler.
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It's very likely a failed EGR cooler and that, without exception, failed because of a plugged oil cooler.

You've got a lot of research to do if you don't want to turn it over to a "pro" to diagnose it - even when I choose to use a pro I feel better about knowing the background information when I turn over the keys.

Search on oil coolers for a lot of good information.
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It's very likely a failed EGR cooler and that, "without exception", failed because of a plugged oil cooler.

You've got a lot of research to do if you don't want to turn it over to a "pro" to diagnose it - even when I choose to use a pro I feel better about knowing the background information when I turn over the keys.

Search on oil coolers for a lot of good information.

Really ? Without exception?? In every case? Yes it is good to check into it but without exception that's a hit of quite a few hundred dollars, are you sure in all cases I didn't do mine and it wasn't plugged did I make a mistake or save hundreds of dollars because mine was the exception?
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This is what my cousin told me, white puffy smoke, smells like hot asphalt and also smells like cleaning products and burnt french fries, the smoke isnt all the time and smells sweet too.
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once again, is it going through coolant??? if it is its the egr cooler. if not than its an underfueling issue. start by check ficm voltage
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When I fixed mine, after all the time is takes to get down that far, its not much more effort to replace the cooler and hpop screen. I'm also looking get a long life out of my truck, that also why, while being down that far did head gaskets and ARP studs. After my egr cooler went, there was really no good way of telling if the head gaskets were blown, so why not? I think the best approach on these trucks, and any vehicle for that matter is to be proactive. Fix it before it fails or do everything you can to prevent it.
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He says its spewing a little bit of coolant out of the overflow but he isnt going through alot and doesnt have to add any and he says he can smell coolant
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Really ? Without exception?? In every case? Yes it is good to check into it but without exception that's a hit of quite a few hundred dollars, are you sure in all cases I didn't do mine and it wasn't plugged did I make a mistake or save hundreds of dollars because mine was the exception?
Ford, quite a while back now, updated their procedures to include the requirement that any time an EGR cooler is replaced that that the oil cooler must also be replaced/rebuilt.

Ford and others have traced the high failure rate of the EGR cooler to plugging of the oil cooler.

I would guess that Ford's decision was driven by not only the oil cooler issue but also the labor involved to pull the EGR cooler is not much more when including the oil cooler.

However, I wasn't including anyone who has a tuner or other mods that might also contribute to a failed EGR cooler.

Another really irritating thing is that, unless you have an 05 or newer model with the latest firmware, there's no way easy way to know if you're suffering from an oil cooler that is on it's way out. Long story short, if you don't have some way to monitor the EOT and ECT then you have no convenient way to know that you do or don't have an oil cooler problem.
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Which side of the oil cooler typically fails, the oil side or the coolant side?
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This is what my cousin told me, white puffy smoke, smells like hot burnt french fries, the smoke isnt all the time and smells sweet too.
Maybe he got a tank of bio- diesel
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All of the diesel fuel around us here is bio diesel and he adds the ford fuel addivtive to each tank but this is the first truck thats done this, he has a truck dealership and gets the same fuel and puts the same additive in every truck. He's worried about the 6.0
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You can get a tester from napa to test the coolant to see if has carbon from the exhaust in it. most likely a EGR cooler or head gaskets. Ask him if the white smoke lingers in the air like smoke or dissipates like steam. Steam is the EGR cooler coolant around the degas bottle could be the head gaskets
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