6.0L Power Stroke Engine and DrivetrainDiscussion of the 6.0L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2003-Up Super Duties and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.0L Power Stroke engine.
Only 2,750 miles on Mobey Jr. 6.0 and no problems at all. Not looking forward to any either, if it's as good as my 01 7.3 it will be a great motor!! I will not put HP products on it until warranty runs out if then. I think that's key to engine life for Diesels!!
No wonder Ford is changing it after a short run for an engine design.
How many other Ford engines only had a three year run? That should tell you what Ford thinks of their own engine.
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First of all, it's not junk. Maybe the one you had was, but the engine as a design is not. There are quite a few 6.0s running around with no problems of any kind (mine included). Your sour grapes are showing and it's wearing more than a little thin.
Secondly, in case you forgot, it isn't Ford's engine, they buy it from International. And it is working pretty well for IH as the VT365. The problems Ford is having with the 6.0 PSD have to do with QC in the sensors and things they are hanging on it. Until Ford starts to demand more stringent QC standards in the sensors they are buying, this engine could be a 7.3, a D-Max, or a Cummins and we would still be having these problems.
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So you’re saying Ford has made it junk. I very much agree!!!! I have had two out of four bought back and the one I have now (also Ford made junk) is back in the shop again. The 01 7.3 is the only one that was worth a hoot and in a moment of stupidity I traded for a 6.0.
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2004 Ford Excursion 4x4 Eddie Bauer 04 6.0L B/D 10/24/03
2001 TrailBay 31BHSS W/Slideout
1964 Karmann Ghia Coupe
Well..I'm on my second. 1st one was bought back after going through 5 power steering boxes plus a slew of other issues. Every issue was related to something hanging off the 6.0 or a "non-engine" componenet.
The new 05 (now has 13k on it) is about to go in for....you guessed it a new power steering box, AC not blowing, EGR done crapped out, RMS leak, and excessive oil leaking out of the turbo.
Do I love this truck? Hell yea!
Would I buy another one? I'll reserve comment on my position until after I get her back from the stealer.
I have to admit, even with the issues I have now I think it is great truck. There are many more people with narry an issue than there are with issues. But, I'm starting to feel like I have been bit twice, so I'm not so sure I'd be up fot a 3rd if it came down to it.
And, no I would not wait for an 07. IMHO: First year production of any vehicle is for fools, those with more money (or credit) than sense, or people that just enjoy the frustration. I dont have the money, dont want to use credit, and certianly don't have the time or patience to deal with the frustration.
Just my 2 bits.
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05 F250 SD CC 6.0PSD Lariat 6-3/4 FX4, Dark Stone w/Arizona Beige - DR 4.5 Edge lift, Nitto Terra Grappler 325/65-18 - Sold 04.06
04 F250 SD CC 6.0PSD Lariat 6-3/4 FX4, Dark Green w/Arizona Beige - DSB'd on 9.14.04 - Replaced 10.27.04
Teamroper60 the 6.9 was not bored to 7.3 and the 7.3 had more and bigger head bolts for this reason it could not be bored.I have a friend who has a 6.9 with a lot of miles drives it like he is mad at it luvs it to.my 6.0 got 42000 miles only trouble one trans recall exhaust manifold leaking and dealer does not know how to fix it i think maybe his tech needs fixing lol
It's amazing how many koolaid drinking experts here know exactly what the 07 Ford diesel is going to be...LOL
You won't know until it goes into production, then YOU'LL KNOW , until then it's just speculation. Changes happen all the time, until it gets the final stamp for production.
The 6.0 is still junk. 05 problems are cropping up like crazy. Look at the poll.
11 guys here have gone through 33 trucks between them. WOW!!!!!!!!
another 44 people have gone through 88 trucks between them.
Thats' nuts.
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2003 6.0 Bought back
2006 6.0 Replacement truck Problem list.
Too extensive to list.
Days in shop so far 71 and counting as they still have it.
34K miles.
After spending a month in the shop and having it back only 2 weeks, it's back in the shop. Ford Customer service refused to send me a DSB Package. Told me the info is in the back of manual. Well truck is in shop and I don't have the info can you give it to me? No, it's in the manual.
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Teamroper60 the 6.9 was not bored to 7.3
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I may be wrong on that, but the information I was given was that the original 7.3 IDI was in fact a bored out 6.9. Supposedly, the thinner walls left after the boring process partially led to the cavitation issues experienced by those engines. Again, that info came from others, not from personal experience. My same sources said that this issue is what led to the 7.3 DIT (Power Stroke) being a whole new engine from the ground up.
__________________ 2003 Toreador Red/Arizona Beige CC, DRW, Lariat, FX4, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, born early Feb. 03; AIC; Silverline turbo-back dual exhaust; 155cc injectors from Full Force Diesel (Casserly); SCT with tuning by Tony Wildman (Total Diesel Performance) & Innovative Diesel; ARP studs; Dfuser regulated return; AFE PG7; Fumoto valve; B&W hitch, Di-Pricol gauges; DIESELSITE Coolant filter; Timbrens; Rancho RSXs; Michelin XPS Traction's; a whole bunch of "bling"; Connex 4300hp; Pioneer DEH6100BT; JL Audio 275w amp driving a 12" sub; JL Audio 50wx4 amp driving the Alpine door and rear seat speakers. 380.3hp/786.7ft-lbs (on my tow tune!)
So you're saying that out of 200,000+ trucks sold each year that those #s are horrible. If it's a POS then why get another POS there are 2 other makes out there? I don't have any luck with Chevy so I don't buy them anymore, never owned a DOdGe but never liked them so I'll never own one of them. Never had problems with Ford so I stay where I get excellent customer service and a reliable truck. All makes have there problems I just go with the one that has been most reliable for me. My 1$s worth.
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2004 F350XLT Lariat C.C Silver, Leather, Longbox FX4.
InnovativeDiesel eXtreme tune(smoookin),
4" rough country,315 75 16 Avon M/T,window visors,spray liner bed, matching wheel flares.
2-55watt ProComp driving lights, 3-130watt ProComp night lights on front mounted light bar.
Kenwood kdcmp425 deck, Fosgate 1800watt amp,2 typeR 12" woofers, JL 5x7 doors,5"CerwinVega 3.5"PolkAudio rear.
Grin Ear To Ear every time I start er up!!
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11 guys here have gone through 33 trucks between them. WOW!!!!!!!!
another 44 people have gone through 88 trucks between them.
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Creeper, give it a rest. You pulled these numbers from your poll in another thread. What you are failing to mention here is that, of the respondents to that poll, 175 had NO trucks bought back. Even by your own obviously unscientific poll, a prospective buyer has a better than 75% chance of getting a keeper.
What I don't understand is, if you hate the 6.0 so dang much, why does your sig say you are ordering another one?? Why are you subjecting yourself to another "junk engine", if that is how you feel??
__________________ 2003 Toreador Red/Arizona Beige CC, DRW, Lariat, FX4, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, born early Feb. 03; AIC; Silverline turbo-back dual exhaust; 155cc injectors from Full Force Diesel (Casserly); SCT with tuning by Tony Wildman (Total Diesel Performance) & Innovative Diesel; ARP studs; Dfuser regulated return; AFE PG7; Fumoto valve; B&W hitch, Di-Pricol gauges; DIESELSITE Coolant filter; Timbrens; Rancho RSXs; Michelin XPS Traction's; a whole bunch of "bling"; Connex 4300hp; Pioneer DEH6100BT; JL Audio 275w amp driving a 12" sub; JL Audio 50wx4 amp driving the Alpine door and rear seat speakers. 380.3hp/786.7ft-lbs (on my tow tune!)
Everyone has an opinion and I certainly respect a person's opinion! So here's my 2 cents: I owned a 03 Lariet SRW 7.3 F-350 and was very satisfied! I now own a 05 Lariet DRW 6.0 F-350 and am just as satisfied, or more, with no trouble with it as of this date! It appears, remember I said "it appears", that most trouble I read about is about trucks modified (chiped, etc.) in this forum. Remember, Ford is the leading seller so therefore you would expect some problems, after all the engineers are human too! I realize this is not much comfort to those that are having problems, but for now, I'm a satisfied Ford customer.
Good luck with your new truck!!!!!
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05 F-350 Lariet Loaded with torqeshift tranny!
Presently with 6000 miles and no problems or trouble thus far!
Towing a 36 ft. Keystone Everest 5ver /wt about 14000 lbs.
Towing at 65MPH and averaging between 10 & 10.5 MPG
So far, Love my Truck!
"junk"?...and you will be ordering a 2005 Lariat? - what gives??.
I understood that this board was for exchanging info, teaching, learning, helping. etc., etc. You do not do anyone a favor by making such flat out statements, which seem out of anger. Us lowly beings who are not privy to your fine assesment that the 6.0 is "junk" have inquiring minds and would welcome an intelligent overview, as long as it is based on solid info. It is quite possible that an engineering faux-pas was commited in bringing the 6.0 on-line...do you have any inherently specific proof of a design fault or engineering screw up? or are just venting from a bad experience because you had gotten a truck that some drunkard built on a monday-lemon? You sarcasm and biased opinions do not help us understand the issues clearly.
Polls, schmalls - yeah!, right...very scientific. Give me a recognized independent study or such, not some gobbleygook that my friend's cousins, half-brother to his mother's ex-husbands brother who had him out of wedlock said that the truck leaked and his sister's boyfriend stepfather found out about it and he was pi**ed!, who participated in a poll and would not get a 6.0 for sure.......please! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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1997 PSD-250HD, 4x4, 5 Speed, standard cab, downpipe, buried muff., 4.7 advanced, Baldwin open air element, Fumoto F-111 plug, Isspro pyro and manifold pressure gauge on pillar, Gulf Coast oil by-pass filter, M/T Baja Radial MTX's.
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-SOLD- 2003 Excursion 6.0 Oxford white, Eddie Bauer 4x4. Turbo Lifesaver, Oil Guard by-pass, Fumoto plug, Rancho RSX'x up front, Rancho RS5410 stabilizer, custom rear air shocks, 30MM rear stabilizer, Radius-Rods by Landyot, Ranch Hand-front and rear, 5 IPF off road lights, Marinco heater plug receptacle, 305's Cooper Discoverer S/T on MT classic II rims, pillar pod with Isspro pyro, trans temp. & boost, V and F code springs.
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2003 Toreador Red/Arizona Beige CC, DRW, Lariat, FX4, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, born early Feb. 03; AIC; Silverline turbo-back dual exhaust; 155cc injectors from Full Force Diesel (Casserly); SCT with tuning by Tony Wildman (Total Diesel Performance) & Innovative Diesel; ARP studs; Dfuser regulated return; AFE PG7; Fumoto valve; B&W hitch, Di-Pricol gauges; DIESELSITE Coolant filter; Timbrens; Rancho RSXs; Michelin XPS Traction's; a whole bunch of "bling"; Connex 4300hp; Pioneer DEH6100BT; JL Audio 275w amp driving a 12" sub; JL Audio 50wx4 amp driving the Alpine door and rear seat speakers. 380.3hp/786.7ft-lbs (on my tow tune!)
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