6.0L Power Stroke Engine and DrivetrainDiscussion of the 6.0L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2003-Up Super Duties and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.0L Power Stroke engine.
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Mine got 11,000 miles just had the tranny recall and thats it and I still think it's the biggest pile of junk. that 6.0 is a joke for pulling loads
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I'll take ya for a ride in a good one when we hook up at the next pull. I'm sure you remember how good my 7.3 ran. Well my 6.0 would flat out destroy that 7.3! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] All I can say is the 6.0 that is in my truck is far from junk! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
69000 and love it only had minor probs all fixed under warrenty no ??'s asked.
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2002 F250XLT 7.3 auto CC SB. 144k miles
sold:
2003 F350XLT 6.0 auto CC SB. 133k miles
1999 F350 XLT 4x4 287k miles
TIME LINE:
Late 2002 Ford built my truck and I’m just to poor to buy it.
1. 2 years later Nov 3, truck arrives at dealer used.
2. 1 Week later I decided it WAS my truck and get an answer to how long for paper work, another 3 DAYS for my loan.
3. I lose my cool and FED UP with bank I want this Ford.
4. Drive to dealer where my truck is sign papers, gave a $1k deposit and went to bank for loan.
5. Called Accessory dealer and started looking at stuff to bolt on just to much to decide I need time to make a plan.
6. Called Broker bought all someone’s Ford stock.
7. I'm officially thrilled with Ford, I will Always own another Ford.
8. Bought wife a 02 explorer (tried to get her a GT 500 but couldn't find one with a trailer hitch) is going to replace Mustang.
9. Walked into dealer and thanked them for fixing the few problems with my truck and making me a great deal.
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11 guys here have gone through 33 trucks between them. WOW!!!!!!!!
another 44 people have gone through 88 trucks between them.
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Creeper, give it a rest. You pulled these numbers from your poll in another thread. What you are failing to mention here is that, of the respondents to that poll, 175 had NO trucks bought back. Even by your own obviously unscientific poll, a prospective buyer has a better than 75% chance of getting a keeper.
What I don't understand is, if you hate the 6.0 so dang much, why does your sig say you are ordering another one?? Why are you subjecting yourself to another "junk engine", if that is how you feel??
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Because that's what was offered. Had they offered me my money back I would have taken it and ran.
75 percent chance of getting a keeper is PRETTY SAD. That doesn't account for those who have had tons of problems or all the buybacks for people not on this board.
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2003 6.0 Bought back
2006 6.0 Replacement truck Problem list.
Too extensive to list.
Days in shop so far 71 and counting as they still have it.
34K miles.
After spending a month in the shop and having it back only 2 weeks, it's back in the shop. Ford Customer service refused to send me a DSB Package. Told me the info is in the back of manual. Well truck is in shop and I don't have the info can you give it to me? No, it's in the manual.
Lets see , turbos, injectors, trans, bedpans, rear mains how's that? All of the 6.0's i've looked under ALL had leaks.
How about the squeaky doors? Cracked Y pipes? Front lower sensor leaks? Puking coolant? Do I need to go on? Look at the TSB's for your proof.
JUNK
Step away from the kool aid.
Call it what it is. I have just about all fords in my stable and I'll call this one what it is. JUNK.
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2003 6.0 Bought back
2006 6.0 Replacement truck Problem list.
Too extensive to list.
Days in shop so far 71 and counting as they still have it.
34K miles.
After spending a month in the shop and having it back only 2 weeks, it's back in the shop. Ford Customer service refused to send me a DSB Package. Told me the info is in the back of manual. Well truck is in shop and I don't have the info can you give it to me? No, it's in the manual.
That also doesn't count all the jackasses that come from the tdr and gm site either who probably helped your poll. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] I've never seen so many ignorant people that have nothing better to do than put down something just from what they read on the net. Of all the 6.0 owners I've ever talked to in person not 1 has complained or said they had problems.
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That also doesn't count all the jackasses that come from the tdr and gm site either who probably helped your poll. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] I've never seen so many ignorant people that have nothing better to do than put down something just from what they read on the net. Of all the 6.0 owners I've ever talked to in person not 1 has complained or said they had problems.
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Hey Super I take offense to that! I don't think if God himself took a poll that said the 6.0 was junk you guys would believe him! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img] I don't know if they're junk or not but I don't hear as many problems with a certain engine on the Dodge or GM sites so that is the only reference I have. Would I pay $40000 for a truck that there is a 25% chance I'm going to get a lemon? Hell No! I read on here about the people that don't come to this board or only coming here if they have trouble but have you guys thought about the people that drive these fleet trucks (which is what Ford sells the most of) that don't care when they're "work truck" tears up so they don't get on a board like this and complain? They could care less if the companies truck tears up. Just something to think about?
P.S. creeper just trying to take the heat off of you for a minute! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
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New truck: 2009 F-250 4x4 6.4 Torxshift Crew Cab Short Bed Lariat Black w/ Black leather every option
F & A.M. Lodge 266
GeorgeC
"I will own a fleet of Dodges first."
None of the problems stated above on mine, I was unhappy as you with my chevy and took a loss getting out of it, but I didn't care it was a POS. My last comment is "Don't let the door hit ya in the arse on the way out"
Peace out. C Ya! Na Na Na Na Na Say hey hey good bye!
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2004 F350XLT Lariat C.C Silver, Leather, Longbox FX4.
InnovativeDiesel eXtreme tune(smoookin),
4" rough country,315 75 16 Avon M/T,window visors,spray liner bed, matching wheel flares.
2-55watt ProComp driving lights, 3-130watt ProComp night lights on front mounted light bar.
Kenwood kdcmp425 deck, Fosgate 1800watt amp,2 typeR 12" woofers, JL 5x7 doors,5"CerwinVega 3.5"PolkAudio rear.
Grin Ear To Ear every time I start er up!!
Lets see , turbos, injectors, trans, bedpans, rear mains how's that? All of the 6.0's i've looked under ALL had leaks.
How about the squeaky doors? Cracked Y pipes? Front lower sensor leaks? Puking coolant? Do I need to go on? Look at the TSB's for your proof.
JUNK
Step away from the kool aid.
Call it what it is. I have just about all fords in my stable and I'll call this one what it is. JUNK.
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Come on over and look under mine! Not a drop of oil nor any "wet spots". Perhaps you should stop shopping in a salvage yard [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Kirk
Keep the shiny side up, and the smoke pourin out the back![img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
04 F250 Ext Cab/6.0 PSD/Torqshift/3.73/FX4/LB/Dark Shadow Grey/Billet Grille/AIRAID filter/MBRP Turbo back stainless dual exhaust/30K B&W Hidden Hitch/Electronic Brake Controller/Superchips microtuner/Weatherguard ADP toolbox/Linex/
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"Lets see , turbos, injectors, trans, bedpans, rear mains how's that? All of the 6.0's i've looked under ALL had leaks.
How about the squeaky doors? Cracked Y pipes? Front lower sensor leaks? Puking coolant? Do I need to go on? Look at the TSB's for your proof."
Squeaky doors??, turbo??, cracked Y pipes??, sensor leaks??...you really! are reaching. Now I know you must be trying to get us going! Your constant references to kool-aid (that's really passe) bedpans??...hmmm, what would Freud say about this. Oh well [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
Do yourself a favor and check the TSB's for all the "other" guys. They all have issues. I am not saying that problems don't exist(this is the real world, you know...)
Simple: I'll repeat it slooooowly;Do you have any proof of design faults or engineering problems that are inherent to the 6.0??? and I don't mean seals, gaskets, ICP's or other accessory issues that make it a nuisance to take it back for warranty work when needed. I'll state it again, you just got a lemon and are p****d. I understand the feeling, but you can't shoot the whole barrel because of some bad apples, specially since you don't have one iota of proof that the 6.0 is a failure. Granted, some parts that go into the 6.0 have been less than stellar, but that doesn't make this engine a failure, just that those parts have been manufactured and failed in their quality control. God only knows where these came from, but I can take a very educated guess that most where manufactured outside of the Good Ole' USA/Canada. You are mixing some component and body failures as if the 6.0 engine was responsible....sheees! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sleepy.gif[/img] [b] [b]
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1997 PSD-250HD, 4x4, 5 Speed, standard cab, downpipe, buried muff., 4.7 advanced, Baldwin open air element, Fumoto F-111 plug, Isspro pyro and manifold pressure gauge on pillar, Gulf Coast oil by-pass filter, M/T Baja Radial MTX's.
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-SOLD- 2003 Excursion 6.0 Oxford white, Eddie Bauer 4x4. Turbo Lifesaver, Oil Guard by-pass, Fumoto plug, Rancho RSX'x up front, Rancho RS5410 stabilizer, custom rear air shocks, 30MM rear stabilizer, Radius-Rods by Landyot, Ranch Hand-front and rear, 5 IPF off road lights, Marinco heater plug receptacle, 305's Cooper Discoverer S/T on MT classic II rims, pillar pod with Isspro pyro, trans temp. & boost, V and F code springs.
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"The polite society, is not one which nobody is armed, but rather one in which everybody is..." Robert Heinlein.
Thanks for the comments guys. I did not want to start a big controversy here, I was just looking for some opinions. The three 7.3 PS that I owned where all great trucks. Each one got better the newer they were. I just want to make sure that the new truck I get I will be happy with. This is why I am getting rid of the F150 I have. I really dont like it and dont think that it will do very well a few years down the road. I really dont tow as much as I used to now that I am not racing but I want to make sure that I feel comfortable doing it when I do.
I also want to make sure that I am going to be happy with the new truck. My wife is getting sick of me trading trucks and I would like to be able to keep one for a while. I almost bought a new Dodge Cummins. I just could not get myself to own a Dodge. I have also looked at Chevys but the truck itself is nowhere near the truck that the Ford is.
Thanks alot guys and keep them coming. This site has been great for helping me now and in the past.
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2005 F250 XLT CC 4x4 6.0 PS. Mickey Thompson MT
1976 Bronco, 4.5"WH Lift, Cage Arms, 5.13 Spool Rear, Detroit Front, 36" Iroks, COR Family Cage, Custom front & Rear Bumpers, 351W, Ford EFI, Headers, ZF 5 speed, Tube Front Clip.
I will never buy another Ford and I've been a loyal ford customer since 84. I used to think alot of the Ford problems were bs and surely if there really was a problem Ford would step up. Well my 05 6.0 has left us stranded five times now with the exact same problems. Now that Ford can't find an answer they're starting to blame all kinds of bs stuff on us. We've bought fuel in 8 different states but Ford is now saying it's fuel problem. I've sent them tests and letters of different companies and they're still saying that's the problem. Anyway I believe all the supposed "internet boogyman" stories now. Ford SUCKS when you have a real problem and they won't step up to the plate and help you out. I've now had to get a lawyer and go the lemon law route.
BTW be prepared for a rude awakening trying to get help if you're out on the road and get help. Ford customer service and roadside assistance is the biggest joke there is.
With all things in life, you have to filter through all the BS to get to the truth. The fact of the matter is, is that unless EVERY Ford SuperDuty owner was a member here and participated in these silly little polls, then these polls can not be considered scientific. Most of the time, they're hardly significant.
Most of the members here came here to either conduct research prior to buying, or are looking for answers to problems they are having. All of the PSD owners that are running trouble free are living normal lives and enjoying their trucks.
I came here to conduct research prior to my purchase. My father owns a 2000 F250 w/7.3L diesel. My brother owns a 2001 model of the same. I know from experience that they were awesome trucks. I was already set to make my purchase when the rumors of the 6.0L diesel hit the masses. I knew from experience that ALL manufacturers have problems with the first year of an introductory model, so I sat tight and kept tabs on the 6.0L's progress. I originally figured it would be the tranny with all the problems. To my surprize, it was the engine with all the issues.
Anyway, the worst IS over and I would not hesitate for a millisecond to purchase an 05 or 06 truck. My 04 has been running great and I am completely happy with it. Its your money and its your purchase, so do your research and buy based on your findings, and gut feeling. Purchase the truck you like best and meets your needs. You won't hurt my feelings if you by a Dodge, Chevy, or rice burner. Just don't get yourself to the point where you're bad mouthing a truck you ordered but haven't even taken possession of yet. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
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That also doesn't count all the jackasses that come from the tdr and gm site either who probably helped your poll. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] I've never seen so many ignorant people that have nothing better to do than put down something just from what they read on the net. Of all the 6.0 owners I've ever talked to in person not 1 has complained or said they had problems.
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Hey Super I take offense to that! I don't think if God himself took a poll that said the 6.0 was junk you guys would believe him! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img] I don't know if they're junk or not but I don't hear as many problems with a certain engine on the Dodge or GM sites so that is the only reference I have. Would I pay $40000 for a truck that there is a 25% chance I'm going to get a lemon? Hell No! I read on here about the people that don't come to this board or only coming here if they have trouble but have you guys thought about the people that drive these fleet trucks (which is what Ford sells the most of) that don't care when they're "work truck" tears up so they don't get on a board like this and complain? They could care less if the companies truck tears up. Just something to think about?
P.S. creeper just trying to take the heat off of you for a minute! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Barry you shouldn't take offense unless you are one of the guys who constantly come from the other sites spouting off useless information. What do they add to help the guys with problems out.
I guess I'll just stick with the old standby that there were several folks that said the same thing about the 7.3 being "junk". Now all you hear about is how great the 7.3 was and how IH should have never got rid of it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] Trust me if it was that great we would have kept ours instead of keeping the "junk" 6.0! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
I've enjoyed my 03 for the last 15mos & 27k. I have had no leaks, cracks, drips, whines, moans, droans, puking, or anything else. I get 18-19 unloaded @ 70. I get 14 towing 6.5k @ 62. I CAN pass semis @ 75-80 towing that 6.5k (& I think I'm nuts for trying it)[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img] . It tracks down the road straight & true, I can't even tell the trailer is there until I look in the mirror.
I have two friends that have 7.3's of about the 98-99 vintage. Both have had to add over $6,000 in aftermarket upgrades to get almost to where this truck has been off the dealer lot. Bigger tranny cooler, tuner/chip, bigger exhaust, etc. I don't race, & I don't abuse it, and I haven't had to add a new intake, a bigger exhaust, a power chip, new head gasket bolts, lift kit, more doors, or anything else.
80+ mph is insane for trucks this size & towing over 60 is ileagal in about 1/2 the states anyway. Blowing hugh quantities of smoke out the tailpipe is wastefull, harmfull, & irresponsible. Its also one of the major reasons for the new emissions laws that are forcing the redesign of diesels today. Ford might have streached the 7.3 until 07, but it (& DCX / GM) would (will) have to have redesigned all the different engines to meet the 07 rules anyway. So the 6.0 became the upgrade to compete with the DMAX & HO.
If you don't abuse your toys, they tend to last alot longer.
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Feb 03 6.0 Silver F-250 SD SC XLT long box, 6-spd 3.73ls, Fx4, Stock, Spray-in liner, Contico box.HARPOONED.
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