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Old 02-14-2013, 11:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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is this 6.0 a deal?

looking at an 04 single cab XLT with the 6.0 f250. im aware of the "issues" with the 6.0's they claim to have a egr delete have to wait and see on that but im confused does the delete also block a hose? if so which one and where can i look for it? 114000 miles 6 spd.. theyre asking 10,000 for it. gonna try to borrow a set of gauges to take.. am i missing anything and is this a good deal?
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Not a bad price if you ask me.

Definitely try to get some gauges to take with ya. Monitor FICM voltage while starting, and driving. Shouldn't go below 45 volts. Should stay 48-49 volts.
Check oil /water temps also.

Look for any oil leaks, residue on degas cap, an all that stuff.
You would be able to the EGR cooler running along and under passenger side of intake manifold. If not there it's deleted.

Miles seem nice, if its clean inside and out I would say the price is good.....but you can always play the 6.0 card and try to steal it!
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Sounds like a very reasonable price, provided it isn't a beat to death work truck. Plan on doing head gaskets and studs though. EGR delete is nice, but its really just a good start.

I'd read IPR pressure if possible too. '03'-'04 trucks can have HPOP problems.

Doing a contribution test would be good too considering the mileage, as injectors start to be a concern as you crest 100k.

I wouldn't pas it up if anything seems of, just reduce what you'd be willing to pay for it.
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arp studs are gonna be the first thing i do with it it looks near perfect all the way around they just used it as a hauler pretty much all hwy miles. do i need to upgrade head gaskets even with the head studs? playing the 6.0 card does sound good to me haha! definitly check all that was stated.. thanks for the replies if you can think of anything else let me know!
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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can anyone link a vid or explain how to setup the gauges? sorta new to diesel trucks and i don't have near the knowledge most of you do so go easy.. specifically on this truck?
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If you get the EDGE insight I think they are plug and play. If you do the Scangauge 2 you can go to their web site and get the codes from the 6.0 section... Just a matter of entering txt strings, you'll get the hang of it. ALSO, if you are really nice, dieselmac may let you have some his codes...
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do you have to add any extra sensors to get EGT's and things of that nature?
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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If you want the egt then yes! Unless you tow extremely heavy I don't think you'll need it. What I run is the ect/eot/ ficm main/logic and power/ boost psi. Others i use are icp,ipr pressure and icp/ipr voltages. fan speed/egr position%. These things can do a ton of things! No extra sensors for the gauge itself . They read it off the diag. port, except egt. If I might add some insight for ya. What you need to keep an eye on is THAT oil cooler. Then the FICM/batt maint.and maint. in general! The problems actually come from 4 sides. 1 Lack of fuel pressure, 2 electrical/ficm batt maint. 3 overheating the engine oil /oil cooler/egr cooler. 4 lack of critical oem/racor filter use. START w/ finding a good base truck to work with.
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sorry for being such a bother... but could you list normal numbers for all of those gauges?
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What to look for: COLD START: RPM 665 @ 48 degrees
IPR 28.7 percent
ICP 843 psi
ICV 1.10
FICM main power 48-48.5 volts
FICM locic power 13.4 volts
Vehicle power/ glow plugs running 12.0 volts
FSS rpm 1472- fan speed sensor
VGT= variable geometry turbo 72/ sweeps through range
Boost 0 psi
ECT ambient 48 degrees
EOT ambient 48 degrees
IAT intake air temp 48 degrees
EGR position 0 percent

normal ect/eot will depend on a lot of conditions as you can guess. Depends really on load and boost. 6-8 degree diff.in these 2 is considered normal. 198-202 ect no load is normal. 200-202 eot no load, oil will always be hotter. 1.7-8psi boost I usually run will increase the oil temp/ not so the coolant temp by 5 degrees sometimes. Get into the 16-18psi boost range and the ect and oil temps rise. Sometimes 10 degree rise. You add an incline and max the truck out towing and thats where the gauges come into play. 230 eot 222ect briefly /crest are normal for me. You also should take into account that "03"-mid "04" coolers while more robust are less efficient. I stay on the lee side of 230 eot to keep the oil /oil cooler happy. WHAT you don't want is all the fun that begins on the other side of 240 eot for an extended period of time. Also I just let the turbo work. 12-16 boost up an incline works for me. Down the interstate unloaded 1.7-6.7 boost gets it done. BTW icp/ipr pressures and voltages fluctuate w/load and engine speed. Hope this helps.
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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thank you so much i'll make sure to take a gauge tool then!! so much help!
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