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Old 09-08-2006, 11:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Break in period?

I'm sitting at 1500miles right now and was curious at what point the engine will loosen up to the point I get better mileage. My Dodge took almost 20k before I started getting decent mileage.

Not complaining, just curious. Also, what is everyone seeing per tank? I got 525 miles on my last tank and put in 34 gal (15.44mpg)
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Re: Break in period?

with that break in oil or dino oil it will take some time to get MPG.
right now is the best time to switch engine and rear end to synthetics
while the engine is clean and the rear end has the least amount of wear. if you decide to use synthetics you will see a MPG increase and your engine will run cleaner, less egr issues and longer drain intervals can be used. Amsoil has been tested best for the money.
many commercial fleets use 80k drain intervals with great savings.
I know they will be a bunch of uninformed individuals that will try and discredit me, but to those guys I ask who FUNDS API (American Petrolium Institute)? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif[/img] answer that question then you can bash all you want.
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with that break in oil or dino oil it will take some time to get MPG.
right now is the best time to switch engine and rear end to synthetics
while the engine is clean and the rear end has the least amount of wear. if you decide to use synthetics you will see a MPG increase and your engine will run cleaner, less egr issues and longer drain intervals can be used. Amsoil has been tested best for the money.
many commercial fleets use 80k drain intervals with great savings.
I know they will be a bunch of uninformed individuals that will try and discredit me, but to those guys I ask who FUNDS API (American Petrolium Institute)? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif[/img] answer that question then you can bash all you want.

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I refuse to comment on engine oil brand( a waste of time in this case [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/vomit.gif[/img]) however the rear differential comes from the factory with synthetic fill as standard. I will probably change both of mine out this fall as I have 50,000 miles on it. Although Ford says it is a lifetime fill as long as it is not contaminated I think a change is a good safety measure. There are those however who tend to classify my maintainance schedule as overkill [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img] (and me as mildly eccentric [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img])!
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Re: Break in period?

If you are considering Ams*il as a lubricant I wont say either way, however, I would not recommend their filters for the PSD. I installed one in my truck at the last oil change and instantly started having 4-5 second delays for the oil pressure to build up. I pulled it out and installed a Motorcraft from Wal-mart for 20 bucks and everything is fine again. Back to ½ second to build pressure. Apparently the filters length isn’t long enough to close the valve in the bottom of the canister and was allowing the oil to drain out every time I turned the truck off. Someone had mentioned that they were working on the problem but this was just a month ago for me.

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Re: Break in period?

Right on with the rear-end coming from Ford with a quality synthetic already in there. Outlines who is actually "uninformed".

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for info on the ford truck differential I have a study that used a few trucks that all were opened and refilled with both dino and synthetic oil's at different intervals
the miles they used off the top of my head were 9k 16k 4k 67k 99k.
all were completely tore down measured for wear, to make a long story short, changing out rear diff factory oil replacing with synthetic has less measured wear over longer period of time and cleaner internal parts under severe use.
and yes factory tags the rear diff "use synthetic oil only"
do they have break in oil at factory and the consumer has obligation to service rear diff.
or they use synthetic on initial fill and have interval guide for first drain.
what is ford recc for first rear diff drain?
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Although Ford says it is a lifetime fill as long as it is not contaminated I think a change is a good safety measure. There are those however who tend to classify my maintainance schedule as overkill [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img] (and me as mildly eccentric [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img])!
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well i looked at the ford quality care maintenance schedule today and read the following for differential " front diff service severe duty 70,000 miles normal operation 150,000 miles " now the front diff is not filled with synthetic from factory
rear diff has 75w140 synthetic " service is rear diff severe duty use 100,000 miles normal operation 250,000 miles " so serviced for lif yeah somewhat true only for the life of the oil though up here in the dirty dusty and cold weather operations we change our customer more often
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Re: Break in period?

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with that break in oil or dino oil it will take some time to get MPG.
right now is the best time to switch engine and rear end to synthetics
while the engine is clean and the rear end has the least amount of wear. if you decide to use synthetics you will see a MPG increase and your engine will run cleaner, less egr issues and longer drain intervals can be used. Amsoil has been tested best for the money.
many commercial fleets use 80k drain intervals with great savings.
I know they will be a bunch of uninformed individuals that will try and discredit me, but to those guys I ask who FUNDS API (American Petrolium Institute)? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif[/img] answer that question then you can bash all you want.

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Here we go again [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]

IDIABUSE, you say that "Amsoil has been tested best for the money"....maybe post a link that we (TDS members/readers) can click on ourselves to verify this. It shouldn't be that hard!!!

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Here we go again [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]

IDIABUSE, you say that "Amsoil has been tested best for the money"....maybe post a link that we (TDS members/readers) can click on ourselves to verify this. It shouldn't be that hard!!!

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https://www.amsoil.com/testimonials/index.aspx

to add to that there is 11 million SCAMZOIL dealers around the globe
that use/sell SCAMZOIL.

If my word isnt any good simply cause I may profit from it, you are surely mistaken.
I have saved countless hours and money since I switched, why is that a bad thing to pass along?

BIG OIL COMPANIES HAVE MADE 600 BILLION SINCE 2005
MOST PROFIT WENT TO SHAREHOLDERS AS DIVIDENDS AND
SHARE BUYBACK PROGRAMS 60 BILLION IS LAYING AROUND
TILL THEY USE IT HOW THEY PLEASE.

I think the quality of dino oil has improved over the years
but out on the market there is better lubricants for the job sold by only a few competeing companies. Amsoil is the only one that advertises home based buissness with so many oppertunities to make profit honestly with one of the best lubricant products on the market.
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Re: Break in period?

How about a site that is indpendent of Amsol?
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Does Ford recommend dino or synthetic?

Will I see any mileage increase with more miles?
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Does Ford recommend dino or synthetic?

Will I see any mileage increase with more miles?

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Ford uses Synthetic 75w-140 in the rear differential as the OEM fill.

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If you are considering Ams*il as a lubricant I wont say either way, however, I would not recommend their filters for the PSD. I installed one in my truck at the last oil change and instantly started having 4-5 second delays for the oil pressure to build up. I pulled it out and installed a Motorcraft from Wal-mart for 20 bucks and everything is fine again. Back to ½ second to build pressure. Apparently the filters length isn’t long enough to close the valve in the bottom of the canister and was allowing the oil to drain out every time I turned the truck off. Someone had mentioned that they were working on the problem but this was just a month ago for me.

Just my .02

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do you happen to remember the color of the media was it white or brown?
I have used 6 of the white Eao88 all have no complaints and operating now. I did notice Amsoil advertising a brown cartridge filter but I never got one.
if there is two different height's I will make sure to check for that in the future, the right Amsoil filter will work just fine and the quality is far superior to motorcraft filter that is made in germany
have you seen the bypass adaptor for 6.0?
consist of billet alum filter cap and billet alum valve cover cap
to aid in the istallation of their bypass filters.
soot removal device, works great with 20k drains or longer with UOA.
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dear sir Amsoil uses some of the same companies that test oil for
API American Petrolium Institute.
you trust them dont you?
do you think Amsoil can get away with their outlandish claims
for a newyork minute, with out the API American Petrolium Institute
attorneys all over them?
they use these companies and quietly advertise the results it is up to you to to do your own due dilegence.
meanwhile big oil still gets paid to advertise Amsoil

http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseI...LicenseNo=0995

for now everyone is happy
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IDIABUSE- do you happen to remember the color of the media was it white or brown?

Answer- Yes it was white.

IDIABUSE- have you seen the bypass adaptor for 6.0?

Answer- Yes I have. Does it prevent oil from being diverted to the byass when at idle or at low rpm?
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