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Old 12-14-2006, 06:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey Everyone, my brother has a 2004 F250 6.0 w/Torqshift 4x4. It has died twice in the last week while driving normally. I am wondering could this be a CPS or what do you think. Thanks for any help, Dave
Also it will restart right after this happens and run fine.
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Re: CPS or somethin else?

Although I understand what he is experiencing is an early indication of a bad CPS, it's doubtful that is the issue. I haven't yet heard of one going out on a 6.0. Probably has happened, but certainly not with the regularity of failure the 7.3 experiences. Hopefully, Grampy or one of the other techs that frequent the site will chime in on this and be able to give you some good info.....
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Re: CPS or somethin else?

Assuming its not modified and the recommended maint has been performed, as the owner, the first thing I would be looking for is wire harness chaffing.
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Re: CPS or somethin else?

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I thought about that, but I didn't figure it would immediately start up again..... Woulda figured the harness would have to be moved, if it had caused the engine to die...........
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The truck is bone stock with about 90,000 miles and no previous problems whatsoever. The truck is very well kept up
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I guess it kind of depends on when it happens. In my way of thinking the engine and harness are constantly moving depending on road conditions, which can cause the chafed contact to come and go. Its still the first thing I would look at. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: CPS or somethin else?

I can understand where your coming from with the CPS. It seems with the 7.3L CPS, it's not a question of "if" it will fail, but when. Many 7.3L owners carry a spare CPS with them. But the 6.0L CPS does not have the same reputation as the 7.3L CSP. About the only thing that goes wrong with the 6.0L CPS is it's leaks oil.

Intermittent problems can be the hardest to troubleshoot. I would check the wire harness behind the FICM. That wire harness comes very close to the outer edge of the valve cover. Another option would be to have the dealer hook up a data recorder to the PCM. Then drive the truck as normal. If the failure occures again, the info that the data recorded could be used to troublshoot the problem.

Here is a link to an article by Ford Doctors about the wire harness on the 6.0L: http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articl...icle-05-11.php
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Re: CPS or somethin else?

Anyone else have other ideas ? I can find no evidence of chaffed wiring anywhere
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Re: CPS or somethin else?

CKP and CMP on the 6.0 haven't been troublesome in my humble experience.... our shop hasn't replaced either IIRC...

For a stall and an immediate restart, my first thoughts are a wire chaffe issue... but the connectors on the bottom of the FICM need to be checked... If the FICM has ever been removed for any reason, it can be difficult to reinstall the connectors securely and they can, over time, shake out far enough to give grief.... I like to give a tiny, little wipe of brake caliper/dielectric grease to the edges of the socket and listen for the audible "click" of the connector locks... and then yank like an SOB to be sure it's all the way in - I've been caught with my "pants down" on this a couple of times and I wont let it happen a third time.

First order of the day would be a code scan to at least narrow the playing field a little.
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What is the FICM and where is it?
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