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6.0L Power Stroke Engine and Drivetrain Discussion of the 6.0L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2003-Up Super-Duties and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.0L Power Stroke engine.

       
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Old 08-14-2006, 01:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I stopped for fuel weekend and saw a sign on the pump that read "Low Sulphur, it is unlawful to use this fuel in any 2007 highway engine." Whats this all about?
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Re: Diesel fuel vs 2007 6.0

You have an 06 spec engine so your fine running it. That is if I understood correctly.
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Old 08-14-2006, 05:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Diesel fuel vs 2007 6.0

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I stopped for fuel weekend and saw a sign on the pump that read "Low Sulphur, it is unlawful to use this fuel in any 2007 highway engine." Whats this all about?

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Its been beat to death a few times here & other places.

Low Sulpher Diesel (LSD - <500PPM) is currently on the market as standard #2 diesel. They are currently in the processs of cutting over to ULSD nation wide.

In Jan 07, all diesel available for retail sale will be Ultra Low Sulpher Diesel (ULSD - <15PPM).

ULSD can be used in any diesel on the road. Use of LSD in an engine designed for ULSD will damage the engine and its smog devices. In a Ford, that means any 6.9, 7.3 or 6.0 can use LSD or ULSD interchangablly. Use of LSD in a (yet to be released 6.4 - MY 2008 / Jan 07), will damage the engine. Use ONLY ULSD in it (when it gets here).
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Re: Diesel fuel vs 2007 6.0

I was reading that also. Does anyone know when they are suppose to get all of these new fuel supplied to everyone? I imagine the change over will be a PITA for some places.
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Old 08-14-2006, 09:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Diesel fuel vs 2007 6.0

Why would it be a PITA? All gas/fuel stations get regular deliveries. Thry're just going to get the new fuel when it's available. The old stuff won't be around anymore.
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Re: Diesel fuel vs 2007 6.0

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I was reading that also. Does anyone know when they are suppose to get all of these new fuel supplied to everyone? I imagine the change over will be a PITA for some places.

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As of June 1, 80% of all #2 diesel refined in the US had to be to ULSD spec. By September 1, 80% of all #2 at terminals has to be ULSD spec, and by October 15 at retail stations.

There has been ULSD in some parts of most pipelines since June, but by the time it gets to the pump the sulphur content is much higher, since the ULSD picks up residual sulphur from inside the pipe. Fuel leaving the entering the pipeline at 10ppm arrives at the terminal with 5 or 10 times that much sulphur. What we're getting now is somewhere between ULSD and LSD.

Ask anyone in Colorado if the changeover isn't a PITA.
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Re: Diesel fuel vs 2007 6.0

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Why would it be a PITA? All gas/fuel stations get regular deliveries. Thry're just going to get the new fuel when it's available. The old stuff won't be around anymore.

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I was saying in the idea of rural areas that don't get so much turn around for fuel sales. I live in a small area of ILL and was just wondering how easy the changeover would be fore people who are limited to there smaller size fueling areas. Thats where I could see some what of a problem.
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Re: Diesel fuel vs 2007 6.0

My buddy owns a fuel station here in Jersey. The diesel pumps have the new 15ppm stickers on them. So I asked him if it was 15ppm fuel. It clearly states on the sticker that it's 15ppm fuel and was issued by the state of New Jersey. His response...... Nope, same crap. They just sent the sticker in the mail and said put it on. Kinda messed up I think. I'm sure there are some new Mercedes running around with the new motors all ready.
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Re: Diesel fuel vs 2007 6.0

It has the decals indicating that 2007 and new need the new Ultra Lower Sulfer or is it the decal that indicates there is ULSD in the pump?

If he is showing that ULSD is in the pump and it is in fact not, I hope he does not get caught. Regardless, I believe he has until 1 September 2006 to replace that fuel.
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Re: Diesel fuel vs 2007 6.0

http://www.clean-diesel.org/vehicle_performance.html

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/servicer...d/pdf/ulsd.pdf

http://www.wspa.org/issues/cleandieselfuelalliance.htm

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/twip/twip.asp
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