6.0L Power Stroke Engine and DrivetrainDiscussion of the 6.0L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2003-Up Super Duties and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.0L Power Stroke engine.
"I haven't been able to find a picture of these, because MAN, are there ever a lot of google hits on 6.0L engine problems! "
Sure their are/were problems with this motor. I had someone email a picture of there odometer reading with over 400,000km on the clock, that's pretty good.
My truck was in for warranty constantly during the warranty period. After the warranty ended the engine blew it's headgaskets.
I got my quotes on getting it fixed, my dealer was actually the 2nd cheapest by a long shot.
I got the work done a performance shop where I felt no "upsell" . Anyways it's been a year since the work was done and no problems. Before it wouldn't run 5 mos without the doctor putting a bandaid on it.
I've had my truck since new and it was never programmed believe it or not. The engine is a great design, they just added a bunch of cheap crap so the consumers can test it first....oops too many warranty claims...........we'll build a new motor.........6.4l.........oops we don't like our supplied engine, we'll build our own.
Who's the next guinea pig.
By the way I like my truck now that it's fixed and I am keeping it. 165,000 km.
LOL Sushibar...pretty soon, we'll be back up to 7.3L again, but this time they'll just have the truck bed FILLED with emissions equipment!
Like you, I expected a lot more miles out of this engine and it seems pretty good IF you can get past the warranty period in one piece, then do the EGR work. This recirculation idea with diesel fuel combustion byproducts is a great idea.....for selling new trucks!
HEY 44x4 ; sorry to inform you that my brother in law found nothing that he believes could have cause your problem while doing the exact work done on your vehicle, except how easy it would be to drop something into the intake runner while work was being done. Any news on your end ???
1973 K5 Blazer 383stroker,TrickFlow alum.heads,Crower forged rods-roller lifter cam-roller rockers,Keith Black10.5:1,Doug Thorley tri-y,MSD,ARP,Q-jet,on 1 ton axles,1991 front clip,3K miles on FULL body off rebuild
HEY 44x4 ; sorry to inform you that my brother in law found nothing that he believes could have cause your problem while doing the exact work done on your vehicle, except how easy it would be to drop something into the intake runner while work was being done. Any news on your end ???
Hey Boomboom, yeah, I wrote a letter to the 'President and Chief Executive Officer' of FoMoCo, one "Alan Mulally"....lol
I searched for his name through the edgar database at the SEC.gov, then got his resume' through Wikipedia, then GUESSED lucky and got through to his office!
I got a phone call from the secretary, but she was no more help than anyone else has been.. (read: ZERO)
But I also went down and took some more pictures at the dealership and ......GUESS WHAT??? I think someone at the dealership is following this thread!
You may have noticed that I haven't named the dealership or any of the other people I've contacted, but that may be about to change...
I noticed they SCRAPED THE PISTON CROWN on the damaged piston (I'll have these pictures up in a minute or so) and the piece of wire is NO LONGER THERE!
Gosh, I wonder if the MISSING GLOW PLUGS have anything to do with this new view of my engine?
New damage valve pictures - note intake valve chew marks
This is the OLD picture...note the piece of wire stuck in the mass. Now look at the NEW picture below. Someones been scraping on it and the wire is now GONE. I wouldn't think anything about this, except that the wire was a major clue and they told me they couldn't touch it before Ford saw it and they couldn't do anything else without FoMoCo authorization. Now that the WIRE has been removed and the piston has been scraped, they STILL don't plan to pay for the warranty repair!
Here's the new picuture, after the scraping occurred. This is actually a much higher res shot, and I'll add some closeups of that bugger grouping tonight when I can edit the photos.
And here's the glow plugs. They look fine, don't they??
Hey, but there's TWO MISSING! And I'm betting there's a long piece of wire in the shaft body of each of these. I wish I could find someone with one that doesn't work or someone who's actually cut one open!
The subject of warranty or oil cooler failure keeps coming up. This is neither.
This is a foreign object introduced into the engine during motor repair.
Hey Jack, hope you see this. If you noticed, the picture of my head and valves has changed. The NEW picture looks a lot more like the the mirror image of the damage on the piston crown than the old picture showed, with no damage.
I'm taking these pictures in near dark, but with the built in flash on the camera, so I can't really see what I'm photographing until I get it home on the computer.
I'm pointing this out because of something you said about lifting the head with the objects on top of the piston.
Well if they are following this, they sould know that you are being truthfull on your end that you couldn't be responsable. It had to have happened during one of their repairs. Istill believe that it might be a tool of some sort and that could have just wedged its self in the intake runner for a while until it passed through the intake valve and WHAM.But i've been wrong once or twice and thats because I thought I was wrong yes it could still be a engine part too. Keep your chin up, stand you ground, good thing happen to good people eventually !! GOOD LUCK
1973 K5 Blazer 383stroker,TrickFlow alum.heads,Crower forged rods-roller lifter cam-roller rockers,Keith Black10.5:1,Doug Thorley tri-y,MSD,ARP,Q-jet,on 1 ton axles,1991 front clip,3K miles on FULL body off rebuild
1973 K5 Blazer 383stroker,TrickFlow alum.heads,Crower forged rods-roller lifter cam-roller rockers,Keith Black10.5:1,Doug Thorley tri-y,MSD,ARP,Q-jet,on 1 ton axles,1991 front clip,3K miles on FULL body off rebuild
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Well if they are following this, they sould know that you are being truthfull on your end that you couldn't be responsable. It had to have happened during one of their repairs. Istill believe that it might be a tool of some sort and that could have just wedged its self in the intake runner for a while until it passed through the intake valve and WHAM.But i've been wrong once or twice and thats because I thought I was wrong yes it could still be a engine part too. Keep your chin up, stand you ground, good thing happen to good people eventually !! GOOD LUCK [\quote]
Thanks Boomboom! I'm just trying to be the kind of guy my 4 lab retrievers THINK I am!
Here's an excerpt from the letter to Alan Mulally, President of Ford......It's a table grid, and I'm going to post it, just to see if it'll appear formatted right on this forum software.
For those of you who have ever owned a shop, what do you think of those IN/OUT mileages on the first and third job?
What do you think of techs who don't do test drives on a cooling system problem, after the work is done?
(incidentally, the only reason he did a test drive on the second one, is that I INSISTED that he do it!)
Thanks TB! If you break off the tip inside the combustion chamber, does it pull the wire through with the tip?
(in other words, if the tip breaks off when it's installed, how much of the glow plug can be pulled through, into the combustion chamber?)
You notice the corkscrew on that piece sticking out of the top? I wonder if that's the "thread" impression on the piston crown?
There you go. Look to me like the damage to 44444444's piston would be caused by something around 3/16 in diameter or so, is that close to the size of a glow plug tip give or take ?
1973 K5 Blazer 383stroker,TrickFlow alum.heads,Crower forged rods-roller lifter cam-roller rockers,Keith Black10.5:1,Doug Thorley tri-y,MSD,ARP,Q-jet,on 1 ton axles,1991 front clip,3K miles on FULL body off rebuild
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yes it could still be a engine part too. Keep your chin up, stand you ground, good thing happen to good people eventually !! GOOD LUCK
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