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Re: Fuel lubrication additives----- What are you using?
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I haven't been using any additive in my new truck...is this bad???
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Fuel additives are not required. With the lower sulfur content of the new fuels, I just wanted more lubrication than the newer fuels give. I believe that with the increased cetane, I get a little better mileage and with fuel prices, I need all the help I can get. It can also help if you get bad fuel, helps with cold starts and seems to run quieter to me. Stanadyne Performance comes out to less than $3.00 a fill up and I think it is worth it; JMO. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: Fuel lubrication additives----- What are you using?
I've used the additives from Power Service, Stanadyne, Amsoil and now Ford.... Of the bunch, the only one I did not like was Power Service... With all the others, my engine was noticeably quieter and smoother. With the Power Service it was not......
I really liked the Amsoil additive, but they changed the formula recently to take out the anti-gel properties, so I stopped using it.
I also liked the Stanadyne. The only complaint I had with it is availability...
The Ford stuff seems to work just as well as the Stanadyne and Amsoil and can be bought from the local Ford dealer for about the same cost as the Amsoil and Stanadyne. As a side note, I have noticed an increase in my mileage since I began using the Ford stuff... Dunno if that is due to it or not, but it's at least coincidental.....
It's a shame I did not see the same results with the Power Service, since it's available virtually everywhere that sells diesel (and at WalMart too)... But since it doesn't seem to work as well on my engine, I think I will stick with the Ford stuff or the Stanadyne....
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Re: Fuel lubrication additives----- What are you using?
I picked up a set of fuel filters from my dealer's parts dept. and also bought 2 bottles of the Motorcraft fuel additive. I changed out the filters and added half a bottle of fuel additive when I fueled. Also changed the oil when I changed the fuel filters and used the new Rotella CJ-4 15w40 oil. The truck runs super smooth and quiet, don't know if the oil or additive made a difference but I can tell something has changed. I think I'll run the Motorcraft fuel additive for a while and see if continues to run as smoothly. Engine has always run great but it's better now.
Re: Fuel lubrication additives----- What are you using?
I recently bought a 5 gal pail of the old Stanadyne. I'll have that for awhile- my question is- how will it perform when all I can get is ULSD? Do I now have 4-1/2 gal of expensive garbage?
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Re: Fuel lubrication additives----- What are you using?
I have used Power service since about 1980 in diesel engines that I have had and friends had that wouldn't start. One friend had a brother who left a tractor with wood spliter outside for a few months and when we went to get it; it was buried in the snow we had to dig it out and then get it started, my friend asked me what to do I said get some power service and wait a few minutes and charge the battery and start it. Well it did and ran quite well for being left out in the cold and snow for so long.
I have never found it not to work as stated. As to whether I get more miles with it I don't really know but I do know I have better lubarcation using it so will continue to use it. Whether you need to or not I don't think that has been proven yet.
Only thing I have found is that the ULSD gives me a little less mpg than the LSD did as I have had the chance to run both on a long trip. It was only 1 or 2 miles per gallon but there is a difference now in a year of using only ULSD that might go away as the engine will be broke in to use the new stuff.
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Re: Fuel lubrication additives----- What are you using?
05PWRSTRKEX,
Basically it means that Stanadyne has gone to the effort to make sure that their products are approved by Ford, Dodge, and GM for diesel useage. Whatever the Manufacturers have required of them to make it OEM approved they have either met or excedded that requirement. Because of this they are approved and you will not have any issues warranty wise if you have your truck in service and they question if you use additives. Lenghty process and I imagine expensive too! For a while int he late 1990'2 and early 2000's there was a Standayne brochure in the glove box of new Ford diesels too!
Re: Fuel lubrication additives----- What are you using?
Mark,
I got home too late to order a case from you (Performance Formula in pints). I did leave a message and will call in the AM. I have been ordering from DIS for a couple of years and twice they have been out of stock with no knowledge of when. I am very glad you are carrying this product.
To others,
I have using Stanadyne for several years and have tried all the others on the market. My tech (Master Certified and good) tells horror stories of clogged fuel filters, bad diesel, etc and recommends Stanadyne exclusively. We all know what the manual says but the reality is that Ford does not control the quality of fuel we buy. If there was no need for fuel supplements, Ford would not have started selling one under their brand. I am running the original C94 injectors with 61K on my truck and use it for insurance every fill up. It has been frustrating to find a distributor but now that Mark is selling it...problem solved.
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Re: Fuel lubrication additives----- What are you using?
I see a lot of misinformation about the ULSD. I thought I might chime in. The ULSD is twice as abrasive, holds 2 1/2 times as much water and will give you less milage. It has a higher cetane, lower pour point but will have more icing problems because of the moisture content. ULSD is not an improvement. They took the sulfur out because it destroys the new scrubbers on the diesel trucks. It is the same as when they took lead out of gas. Unleaded gas is not better. I would recommend any good additive. I don't like retail products myself but look for more moisture dispursant. 5% biodiesel will help but anything less is not helpful. Stay away from additves that seperate the water. Also, look out for problems with antigels this winter. Most of them are found ineffective in ULSD. Let me know if you need any test results. I have binders of them. We have been testing fuels and additive from all over the country.
Re: Fuel lubrication additives----- What are you using?
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I see a lot of misinformation about the ULSD. I thought I might chime in. The ULSD is twice as abrasive, holds 2 1/2 times as much water ....
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Chris, can you share your source of this information? Not saying you're wrong, but the above is coming somewhat out of the blue.
tks,
Mark
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