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Old 05-01-2005, 04:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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HFCM Drain on 2005 F-250 PS

Have 700 miles on truck, still trying to learn where all the parts and pieces are. The PS diesel owner's supplement manual shows picture of HFCM mounted on frame. Shows "Drain Lever" and drain on bottom of HFCM. My truck does not have a "Drain Lever" nor drain. There is, however, a brass plug with hex-head at the bottom of the unit. Is this the drain? If it is, are the plug threads slotted so that as it is loosened, the fuel can flow out? Or do you have to remove the plug and then as fuel runs down your arm and all over the floor, try to get it threaded back in? Thanks for help. First 700 miles have been fun! Can't wait to get the 5th hooked up to see how she tows! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: HFCM Drain on 2005 F-250 PS

You got it... the level is coming "SOMEDAY" till then, we all get the joys of a diesel bath. It's a 6mm allen head. A cut up 2-liter bottle seems to work dandy to catch the gunk. When you put the plug back in, be sure not to over torque it.

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Re: HFCM Drain on 2005 F-250 PS

this has probably been covered before but try tieing a shop rag around your wrist and the diesel wont into your arm pit. it will soak up in the rag...
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Re: HFCM Drain on 2005 F-250 PS

A 6mm allen wrench will remove the brass plug. There is a steel plug available from Ford. Part Number is "3C3Z-9A214-AB Adaptor". It was about $8.00 I think.

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The day the public finds out that the upgraded unit is available there will be a run on them. I know I would like the lever system. That is the one thing I miss compared to my '97 and the way it drained. Chris
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Re: HFCM Drain on 2005 F-250 PS

That's friggin beautiful. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/depressed.gif[/img] I can't wait to do my first drain now. The book does say a lever, low and behold .. an allen plug.

Thanks for the advise about the towel around the wrist that will come in handy. Or maybe diesel would work as an anti-perspirant [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/vomit.gif[/img]

Anyone has the torq specs on that plug? Will it need teflon tape or any type of thread sealant?

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Anyone has the torq specs on that plug?

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62 lb-in

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Will it need teflon tape or any type of thread sealant?

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The plug has an o ring on it. Check it for nicks/debris and reinstall. It's not as bad as it sounds... unless you have a 4X4 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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Re: HFCM Drain on 2005 F-250 PS

I wonder when they changed from the brass plug to the steel? I ordered a steel one several months ago after reading the posts on here (to be on the safe side) and I have a steel plug in there already?
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Re: HFCM Drain on 2005 F-250 PS

4/12/05 (Tuesday!) built 2005 F350 4x4.

Still putting the plugs in them (no lever)
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PS: I wonder if anyone here has a truck that was built on March 19th (Friday...day after St. Patricks day). LOL [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]
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Re: HFCM Drain on 2005 F-250 PS

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this has probably been covered before but try tieing a shop rag around your wrist and the diesel wont into your arm pit. it will soak up in the rag...

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Now there's an idea! Last couple of times I've managed to avoid getting it all the way to the armpit though. Someone suggested cutting off a 2-liter soda bottle and holding that up under the drain as you open it (you could even let the plug fall into it if you can't grab it in that small space in time). Works like a charm. The diesel doesn't fall far enough to splatter, and the plastic bends to be able to wedge it in past the driveshaft and frame, etc.

The other handy tip is to park slightly nose down when doing this. That way only a few paper towel's worth of extra fuel spills out onto the frame rail when you take the filter cap off, rather than a whole pool of it.

I'll be first in line at the parts department for the lever-drain HFCM when they finally start selling them.

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Re: HFCM Drain on 2005 F-250 PS

I have reached over the drive shaft to rotate the allen reach with good results. Also, cut a plastic milk jug to get as close as possible to the HFCM. Remove the fuel cap before you start and start to drain. I usually get about a pint of fuel and never get any fuel on myself. Hate the diesel bath! Hope this helps.

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Re: HFCM Drain on 2005 F-250 PS

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Or do you have to remove the plug and then as fuel runs down your arm and all over the floor, try to get it threaded back in?

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Welcome to TDS Frunky. The boys have taken care of you with this post. I also use a gallon milk jug with the upper 1/4 cut off, so I have a handle to hold while it is draining. As for threading it back in, just let it completely drain, it will only drain a pint or so, then come to a stop. I have the brass plug and stripped it, had to go buy a new one and a spare to keep just in case. Next time I will buy the steel version.
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Re: HFCM Drain on 2005 F-250 PS

One more quick hint to stay clean. Use the cut off plastic soda bottle for sure. After loosening the plug until you can turn it with your hand, reach above the driveshaft to unthread/remove the plug, remove the plug while having your plastic catch container ready, and you should remain deisel free. It works well for me. Good Luck.
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Re: HFCM Drain on 2005 F-250 PS

Leave the 'T' handled allen wrenches in the tool box and get a set of 'L' shaped wrenches. The set I have also have the 'ball' on the end so you can use the wrench, once plug is loosened, at an angle. It works great for getting around the front driveshaft.

For draining, use a small container that you can hold under the plug while it drains. Also, don't pull the plug completely from the HFCM. Allow it to drain for a while before pulling out the plug. Since it IS a drain, the plug is going to be the lowest point in the HFCM. Water sits at the bottom, so the water will be the first out the plug. Prior to draining, make sure you loosen the fuel cap to the tank, so you can break the siphon action.

If your arm is above the driveshaft, then only your hand gets fuel on it. If your arm is below the driveshaft, your arm pit will get the fuel. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]

Another solution would be to install an aftermarket fuel filter/water separator ahead of the HFCM. Once installed, you can see the trash that you're trapping and can twist a lever to drain. See my pictures.
The only downside is the complete diesel bath you get during installation. (cutting rigid fuel line) The aftermarket filter I'm using is the Dahl/Baldwin 100. The whole kit is like $120 and replacement filters are $9 each. (Cheaper to replace than the factory filters.)

Anyway, I did not mean for this to become an infomercial, but I believe having clean fuel is vital for long diesel life.

Good luck and here's to dry arm pits.
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Re: HFCM Drain on 2005 F-250 PS

Thanks guys for all the info on draining the HFCM. I used a cut-off liter plastic bottle, and stuffed a rag under the HFCM so that when the fuel came out and followed the bottom of the HFCM, it got absorbed. Never spilled a drop. I was careful with the brass plug, and will buy a steel replacement to keep on hand. I only drained about a half-cup, and it was clean w/no water. I will let it drain completely next time, but was cautious because my Cummins I had for 185,000 miles was persnickety about air in the fuel line. Apparently on the 2005, the HFCM is moved from previous models. A couple of replys mentioned the drive shaft...my HFCM is almost directly opposite the tranny. Plenty of room to get hand up above the plug so no fuel ran down my arm. Piece of cake! Thanks again! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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