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IPR screen has hole, no start

I have been searching forums for awhile now and can't seem to find what I'm looking for, this may have been discussed already so if it has I apoligize.

Had my 05 6.0 die on me when I was pulling in my driveway. Crank but no start. Did the air pressure check by plugging in through the ipc sensor port. No leaks. Building 0 psi for hpo. LPO was fine. FICM was reading correct voltage. Changed out HPOP and when i pulled IPR, there was a hole in the screen of my IPR.

Now my question is should I go ahead and put my truck back together with new HPOP and IPR, or remove oil cooler and check the screen and possibly replace with new screen and oil cooler.
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I would put back together with new IPR and hpop. But it can't hurt to.check the screen if you have the time and motivation.

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Had my 05 6.0 die on me when I was pulling in my driveway. Crank but no start. Did the air pressure check by plugging in through the ipc sensor port. No leaks. Building 0 psi for hpo. LPO was fine. FICM was reading correct voltage. Changed out HPOP and when i pulled IPR, there was a hole in the screen of my IPR.
A break in the IPR screen indicates that it likely accumulated some debris which can break it or even force the screen to pop off the tip of the IPR. This can lead to the debris getting caught in the valve preventing it from closing. The suspects are [1] the panels of the HPOP oil supply inlet dislodging which is common and [2] debris in the HPOP reservoir from a sloppy oil cooler repair or contamination from the low pressure oil system making it's way through the missing panels of the screen.


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Now my question is should I go ahead and put my truck back together with new HPOP and IPR, or remove oil cooler and check the screen and possibly replace with new screen and oil cooler.
If it were my truck I would have replaced the IPR BEFORE disassembling anything on the engine. For me it is a matter of cost for the parts but I also want to know what direction my diagnosis and repair should proceed. I would not want to replace a perfectly good HPOP. Not knowing the service and repair history and mileage of the truck, removing the oil cooler to inspect the screen and probably replacing it along with the oil cooler would in fact be prudent.

There are other possible causes for your high pressure oil system leak but I would at least try a new IPR and see if it starts... If you already have the pump out, at least inspect the outlet fitting (a.k.a. STC fitting) for looseness and leaking o-rings making sure the engine goes back together with the one-piece fitting.

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A break in the IPR screen indicates that it likely accumulated some debris which can break it or even force the screen to pop off the tip of the IPR. This can lead to the debris getting caught in the valve preventing it from closing. The suspects are [1] the panels of the HPOP oil supply inlet dislodging which is common and [2] debris in the HPOP reservoir from a sloppy oil cooler repair or contamination from the low pressure oil system making it's way through the missing panels of the screen.
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How common are 05 HPOP failures?

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How common are 05 HPOP failures?

Rare. Especially when compared to everything else on this engine that goes "bad."

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