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Old 08-01-2005, 05:57 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: Napa Gold oil filter ????

I guess when you place an order you can specify that you want the made in germany motorcraft twin filter if not dont ship it..
It would flat out be nice to know 100% if wix changed manufactures, their was some 7.3l issues with their filters in the past and i forgave them.. but i dont like the looks of what may be comming. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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I guess when you place an order you can specify that you want the made in germany motorcraft twin filter if not dont ship it..j.schall

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i didnt make any special request...in fact i ordered off
their web pages AFTER i did all the work in looking up
the pat. numbers & determine who had the cheapest.

i for one will continue to do business w/ fleet...im not
associated w/ them in anyway shape or form...just shared
the work that i did on my own...

the product that i was delivered is in perfect form !
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I too will continue to trade with them with out a doubt i think i will just double check, i too ordered off the web so im not sure how to check maybe a quick note in the comments section..
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Old 08-02-2005, 11:14 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Re: Napa Gold oil filter ????

Yo, POS, any answer for us? What's the deal with these new filters? Who makes them? Why the change? It's not just the black ooze, the construction is totally different from what we were used to. What's with the plastic sleeve on the inside? Seems like it would restrict flow somewhat. Inquiring minds what to know.
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Re: Napa Gold oil filter ????

I don't have an answer right now because I'm out of town (I'm sitting in a hotel lobby reading this post right now); I'll be back on Thursday and I'll open my new pallet of filters and see what they look like. I really don't have any answers right because I don't have access to those answers. But I'll post again on Thursday.
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Fair enough POS have a safe trip....
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POS; Thanks for staying in the loop. Rob
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Sounds good POS, just let us know as soon as you can as some of us are waiting to install one of these on our next oil change.
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Be fore you jump up and down saying they are just the same you need to read the complete post. The filters coming out out the NAPA Gold box no longer look like the MC / Wix filters. They now have a plastic edge around the top &amp; bottom as well as a plastic tub through the center. My last MC/Wix filters didn't have those characteristics, and therefore we have an interest in why the change. Where who make them, and are they any good! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]
They no longer say made in Germany no Made in USA
This is how they look.
Mine didn't have the extra glue!

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We opened a few cases of these yesterday and looked at all of them. The "style" of them looks like what BAF250 posted - they do not look like the MC style of filter. They have a plastic surround top and and bottom, and they have a plastic core inside; the filter media is glued to the top and bottom; the filters say "Made in the USA" on them.

Of the filters we examined yesterday, all looked very similar. The only issues we could find was some discoloration of the plastic on the top and bottom plastic pieces (hardly an issue) and we noticed that some of the glue tended to coagulate in between the filter media and glob up - the "globs" in between the media were minor and also do not impact the filtering ability. I do not believe that the "globs" could come loose and, if even they did, they would be stopped by the filter media from entering the engine.

Also, in the pictures posted by BAF250, his last photo shows what looks like melted plastic around the housing. To me in the picture, the "melted plastic" looks like excess glue that has run out and over the side. None of the filters we opened yesterday looked like that at all. If we saw one of those, we wouldn't sell it - we'd defect it. Regardless, as long as the filter fit in it's engine-housing properly, the filter would still properly filter the oil even though the filter didn't look all that pretty, but he's right to be concerned. I would second-guess myself too if I had seen that filter in my hand. Again, none of the filters we viewed yesterday looked like his.

I talked to Wix customer tech and asked them about any changes on the line, and they have no way to tell me if there were any changes and if those "strange" filters came from an outside supplier (like filter companies are known to do). I'm convinced the only way to get a manufacturing question answered like that is to talk someone directly involved in the manufacturing process - I wouldn't know where to start and I'd bet they wouldn't want that information known to the outside world.

I can't promise that every Wix filter will be perfect in its appearance, and I can't promise that every filter we sell will be either. We will continue to open cases randomly and spot check the "look" of the filter, but I am not concerned at all about the filters ability to filter the oil to ratings set by the manufacturer - regardless of the filter's appearance. If you get one of these odd filters, we'll gladly take it back.

By the way, I still use Wix in my truck and will continue to do so regardless if the filter looks perfect or not - I'm more concerned about it's ability to do its job properly, and I have the same confidence that I've always had that it will do just that.
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Re: Napa Gold oil filter ????

MrMike is the one who took the pictures I just pulled them from a post he made early in this thread. My filters did not have the extra glue, I used the pics to show the people saying the NAPA Gold looked just like the MC / Wix. I just wanted info from anyone that had used this type filter.

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Interesting. I'd still like to know the real answer. Has Wix changed their manufacturing process or are they now buying from someone else? An even better question is, has anyone actually used one of these new style Napa Gold filters in their 6.0 yet? Any adverse effects?
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Re: Napa Gold oil filter ????

I've got one in mine and it still runs...lol.
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I talked to Wix customer tech and asked them about any changes on the line, and they have no way to tell me if there were any changes and if those "strange" filters came from an outside supplier ...


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Not a good sign when they don't even know where their filters are made or how, think I'll go back to motorcraft filters.
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I agree sticksnglue. Not a good sign. POS, please try to get us a better answer. I'm aprehensive about using these filters. Usually when a company has a major change made to their product line it is to cut costs. If that comes at the expense of quality, I'll have nothing of it. Especially with something as important as an oil filter. I am not impressed with the visual inspection of these filters. I'm leaning towards sending them back. I need to be convinced otherwise.

The whole reason why I bought them was because I thought I was getting the same Napa Gold filter I had bought from Napa several times, just at a reduced "fleet" price. Saving a few bucks, however is not worth it if "experimenting" with an unproven design and product leads to damage. These trucks are too expensive for that.

If I can be convinced that they are every bit as good as the older style, I'll happily use them. So far that has not happened.
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