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Old 11-23-2007, 11:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New to diesels. Is this right?

I know your supposed to let your truck warm up befor you go any where, but does it not have any power til it warms up half way? I started my truck last night to pull it back in the drive way to plug it in. I didn't let it warm up that much. I tried to pull it out of the ditch in front of my house and it was struggling to get out of the ditch. Does the tranny have to build that much pressure befor it will move?
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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

It's not the trans. It's the engine.
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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

I have tried to pull a trailer without it being up to temp, BIG mistake. Almost got hit trying to pull out on a road. The turbo isnt very responsive unitil warm. One reason is the acutator is driven by engine oil. The oil in the acuator sits until the warm oil can warm it up and push it out of the way. Here is a picture of were the oil sits. I like to let mine warm up for 5-10 minutes. That is usually long enough for a trailer. Maybe longer if it is colder and not plugged in.
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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

Don't idle it to warm it up. It sounds more sluggish when cold than it actually is.
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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

Why not let it idle for 5-10 minutes? I dont for see that hurting anything. Anything longer maybe after several times.
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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

I'm not supposed to let it idle to get warm??? how does it warm up then?
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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

The best is to let it idle for 5min or so then take it easy until the gauge moves off the cold line. Don't plan to tow hard until it is at full temperature.

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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

Thats cool thanks.
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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

do this: start engine on a cold day and let it idle for 5 minutes. Shut off engine and remove oil filler cap and look at water on oil filler cap.
Warming up the engine by idling is the slowest way to build heat in a diesel engine. The crankcase vent system does not circulate much when the engine is cold and condensed water vapor will not be ventilated out and forms in higher quantity.
If it is below freezing it is wisse to let it idle for no more than two minutes to let the oils in trans, power steering, and engine get circulated and then drive off slowly. How long you take it easy is dependent on how cold it is.
The idling 18 wheeler thing was due to transmissions with no synchronizers and the inability to shift gearbox without the trans oil being warm. Also the driver may have wanted to keep the windows clear of ice. Let truck idle also had a LOT to do with it not usually being a truck owned by the driver and the fuel was not being bought by the driver either.

But if you like, please let it warm up for lengthy period of time. Exxon-Mobil can use the money.
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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

lol they have enough with out getting mine.
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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

If the concern is sluggish/no power and/or delayed upshift when cold.... think "inductive heating" flash....
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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

Do a topic search for "wet-stacking." It is detrimental for the 6.0 to idle when cold. Run it easy under 2000 rpm until it warms up. Yeah, it's a pig when it's cold. That's the first thing I noticed when I switched over from the 7.3
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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

My not too very scientific research tells me that 6.0's that are warmed up for several minutes before they are driven get stuck turbo vane problems. One of my friends with a 2005 that does warm ups has had a turbo cleaned and then it was later replaced. Another friend who has a 2005 company truck and starts and goes has similar miles and never a turbo issue. Both trucks are 3.73 geared crew cab 4x2's. The sample is small but it makes me wonder.
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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HARLYBO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know your supposed to let your truck warm up befor you go any where, but does it not have any power til it warms up half way? I started my truck last night to pull it back in the drive way to plug it in. I didn't let it warm up that much. I tried to pull it out of the ditch in front of my house and it was struggling to get out of the ditch. Does the tranny have to build that much pressure befor it will move? </div></div>
My truck is the same as yours except mine is bone stock and I can start mine at 0 F. above, I started it at 10 above without being plugged in 2 mornings ago, and NO WARM UP and step on the "go pedal" and it goes. Try putting it back to stock; remove that junk air intake, and see what happens. If not, put it back to stock and get the latest flashes. Starts and go's no problems!
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Re: New to diesels. Is this right?

It's called "cold engine, dead pedal" and I've lived with it since new in 2004. It's frustrating for things like moving the truck around the driveway at short notice, etc. I've gotten to the point that I'll start the truck, let it idle for 30 seconds or so, then rev the engine gently up and down the RPM range... Once it seems responsive, I'll shift into D and drive off. If it's real cold, or if the truck has sat for an extended period, I'll start it and let it idle for 4 or 5 minutes before I even try to move it. Seems the colder it is, the longer it takes.
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