Oil Filters - Page 2 - Diesel Forum

GOPDiesel · 08-21-2006, 11:16 AM

I've seen the Fram filter and wondered the same thing. It looked identical to the OEM. Even had the Made in Germany mark.

Pat

IDIABUSE · 08-21-2006, 12:31 PM

well it is obvious you didn't use amsoil products as they are recommended, on top of that judging by your attitude you didn't learn much.
no reason to make negative comments or call people names, especially people that try to help others with knowledge/experience.
it is much easier to solve a problem by finding the root problem and that is what this site is here for, hopefully in the future we can respect each other to learn important facts for easier maintenance on our trucks

Arkapigdiesel · 08-21-2006, 12:37 PM

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well it is obvious you didn't use amsoil products as they are recommended, on top of that judging by your attitude you didn't learn much.
no reason to make negative comments or call people names, especially people that try to help others with knowledge/experience.
it is much easier to solve a problem by finding the root problem and that is what this site is here for, hopefully in the future we can respect each other to learn important facts for easier maintenance on our trucks

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You act as if not using Amsoil oil is what caused the Amsoil oil filter to collapse? And you wonder why people get offensive?

You are doing more harm for Amsoil -vs- good.

IDIABUSE · 08-21-2006, 01:08 PM

As far as doing more harm than good I find it hard to believe that I'm doing any harm bringing people mistakes to light.
Amsoil oil is made to use Amsoil filters. yes it will work anyway you feel but Amsoil will not reccomend any extended drain intervals using any other filters. yes amsoil filters have the most trapping capacity wich work specifically with Amsoil oil.
dino oil is thicker and won't flow through Amsoil filter like Amsoil will. better to use oem filters with oem oil they work together and are tested. just like testing dino oil with Amsoil filter it didn't work so good. that's not a end all to Amsoil products. learn to use products how they are designed not make misleading claims of inferior products doing inferior test.
next time spend the money and buy the whole thing oil and filter and learn how to save money.

colonelaberilla · 08-21-2006, 01:08 PM

Why are you even posting in this forum? You don't have a 6.0L. This forum is not related to 7.3L. Go sell Amsoil some where else.

FamilyRide · 08-21-2006, 01:20 PM

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Why are you even posting in this forum? You don't have a 6.0L. This forum is not related to 7.3L. Go sell Amsoil some where else.

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I'm an Amsoil believer (in the right applications) but I almost have to agree with you on that, if nothing more than to stop giving Amsoil a bad name! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]

FYI, IDIABUSE make sure you're talking 15w-40 vs 15w-40. Viscosity is viscosity and I don't think you'll find anyone at Amsoil that will say do not use Amsoil filters with any other comparable oil.

**swenny** · 08-21-2006, 01:21 PM

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as far as doing more harm than good I find it hard to believe that I'm doing any harm bringing people mistakes to light.
amsoil oil is made to use amsoil filters. yes it will work anyway you feel but amsoil will not reccomend any extended drain intervals using any other filters. yes amsoil filters have the most trapping capacity wich work specifically with amsoil oil.
dino oil is thicker and won't flow through amsoil filter like amsoil will. better to use oem filters with oem oil they work together and are tested. just like testing dino oil with amsoil filter it didn't work so good. that's not a end all to amsoil products. learn to use products how they are designed not make misleading claims of inferior products doing inferior test.
next time spend the money and buy the whole thing oil and filter and learn how to save money.

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I have to disagree with these statements. You can use what ever filters you want with the AMSOIL products. However, if you want to use another brand filter with AMSOIL products and are going to extend your drain intervals, then you must change your non AMSOIL filter at the regular interval.
You are also able to use the AMSOIL filter with any other oil. They are compatible with other oils.

IDIABUSE · 08-21-2006, 01:22 PM

I'm posting on topic 6.0 info. what are you posting here?

sullyx7 · 08-21-2006, 01:23 PM

IDIABUSE... I respect your opinion, but they are right. You are doing more harm than good for Amsoil. I realize you mean well, but you come across as a two bit salesman in your posts. I'm sure pretty much EVERYONE agrees with me. I won't use amsoil and I don't think many others here would consider it either. We've all heard your lines before, and they're falling on deaf ears now. All you're doing is irritating people now. So please give it a rest.

IDIABUSE · 08-21-2006, 01:39 PM

maybe that's true but when questions crop up and answers come in all shapes and sizes why do i have to to be attacked for using and reccomending amsoil?
if I was recommending any other oil it wouldn't be so heated but because some just hate amsoil I am the parrot, brainwashed idiot that nobody cares to hear my experience.
well I won't be intimidated by anyone and I will keep my post on topic and answer questions to the best of my knowledge. if anyone can prove me wrong I will accept it if it is accurate. so far I haven't had much problems except for a slip with oil filter part# I'm happy somone corrected for me. EaO 88 Amsoil 6.0 oil filter

STG · 08-21-2006, 01:40 PM

No data, no certified lab results, no proof. Just abusive BS.

sullyx7 · 08-21-2006, 01:49 PM

No... it's not that people hated amsoil before you. You just have a style of turning people off in a hurry. But you could shut a lot of people up by posting some real world lab results. I'd honestly like to see some.

AllOutFirefighter13 · 08-21-2006, 01:53 PM

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No... it's not that people hated amsoil before you. You just have a style of turning people off in a hurry. But you could shut a lot of people up by posting some real world lab results. I'd honestly like to see some.

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IDIABUSE,

Yup. Real world and factual results could do wonders here. I'd be the first to shut up and listen, if you could back up your claims of what you've been saying all along.

IDIABUSE · 08-21-2006, 02:18 PM

yes all those statments are facts I agree, you are correct, let me ask how long can u use amsoil in a diesel applications using non amsoil filters changed at oem rec?
does it make any sense if non amsoil filters are used with amsoil oil and 10k goes by and a uoa is done and shows that the oil is dirty why bother to buy amsoil?
now regular filters can't catch the capacity of dirt and size particles amsoi filters are made to handle. this will show in uoa when tested.
diesel oil has additives to suspend soot/dirt for filter to catch, when the filter is full of dirt the oil additive is depleted,sacrificial product to begin with now needs change.
oil is dirty, filter has reached its capacity time to change.
keep the oil cleaner with better filters, oil last longer.
very simple concept to uderstand.

Arkapigdiesel · 08-21-2006, 02:24 PM

Idiabuse,

I will quote what you have said:

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amsoil makes the best 6.0 filter available, just visually comparing there isn't anything that comes close, 98.70% filter efficiency@15 micron per iso 4548-12.
good for 15/25k diesel application used with amsoil aka moose milk

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Do you have testing to backup the statement that Amsoil makes the best filter available for the 6.0 PSD? So you can "visually" look at filters and tell that "there isn't anything that comes close"? Also, it's good for 15-25K with Amsoil oil?......what if there is excessive fuel dilution, or coolant leaking into the oil?
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I have purchased and used oem 6.0 oil filters and amsoil filters, seeing both oem/aftermarket then an amsoil filter anyone that has two good working eye balls and half a brain can tell wich filter has superior cababilities from ten feet away.

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Do you have testing to back that up, or just "two good working eyeballs"?
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you said u used it only 3k and it collapsed? did u use amoil oil? did you happen to take a pic of the filter, was it a EaA88 filter? how long ago did that happen to you?

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What in the hades does using Amsoil oil make a difference on a filter collapsing?
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well it is obvious you didn't use amsoil products as they are recommended, on top of that judging by your attitude you didn't learn much.

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Actually, he did use an Amsoil product, and it collapsed.
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as far as doing more harm than good I find it hard to believe that I'm doing any harm bringing people mistakes to light.
amsoil oil is made to use amsoil filters. yes it will work anyway you feel but amsoil will not reccomend any extended drain intervals using any other filters. yes amsoil filters have the most trapping capacity wich work specifically with amsoil oil.
dino oil is thicker and won't flow through amsoil filter like amsoil will. better to use oem filters with oem oil they work together and are tested. just like testing dino oil with amsoil filter it didn't work so good. that's not a end all to amsoil products. learn to use products how they are designed not make misleading claims of inferior products doing inferior test.
next time spend the money and buy the whole thing oil and filter and learn how to save money.

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He tried out the Amsoil filter, but it didn't work to well in his application. You said that "dino oil is thicker and won't flow through amsoil filter like amsoil will". BS, dino or syn is at the same viscosity at operating temp. You basically call people idiots for not buying and using 100% Amsoil products. With your approach, you can be assured that people won't be trying Amsoil.

I have used Amsoil products and I have an Amsoil bypass filtration system installed on my truck so I believe that Amsoil makes good products. You might want to think about a different approach.