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Old 12-28-2012, 08:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Oil and romp

Trying to figure out the romp on my Excursion. Just changed the oil with Motorcraft 15/40. Romps pretty good in morning in 30 to 40 temp. Since the oil was just changed with new filter, I was thinking of draining oil and replacing with T6 and leave the newly changed filter in place. ..... No filter change.

Any harm with this?

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Nope. The lighter weight will help. You could always set up a timer to energize your block heater a couple hours before you start the ex so the oil is warm and ready to go.
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Nope. The lighter weight will help. You could always set up a timer to energize your block heater a couple hours before you start the ex so the oil is warm and ready to go.

Yep, thought about that too. Was thinking more about when away from home, which is all I use it for. Not sure if the oil is my problem.......... It took 5 times to get it going this morning at 32 degrees. It just kicked over and stopped. Finally got it going. It was just 32 so anything lower will be more problems I'm sure. I will put the T6 in over the weekend and see if that helps. This will be a very good experiment on syn oil vs Dino oil and cold starts. I will know for sure (at least in my case) if syn oil helps with my particular romp.

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No check engine light? You might have lost some glowplugs. Also what is your battery voltage.
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No check engine light? You might have lost some glowplugs. Also what is your battery voltage.
I did get and engine light the other day, but the scanner said it was EGR valve. I cleared the code and it has not returned. Battery voltage is good question. Don't know that one. I will check this weekend. One other thing I did not think of......I have not cranked it about a week and it was 32 this morning. The batteries did turn over slower than the last time. Might just have weak battery issue.....

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Update: The syn oil (T6) did not stop the romp. Changed it out yesterday and just started up in 35 degree. Still had romp, but did not seem as bad.....maybe because I run it yesterday to get the oil moving around. HOWEVER....

I got my ScangaugeII hooked up and the FMP (FICM) reading was 35 to 36. Battery voltage was 13.8. So, unless the reading was thrown off because I programmed it in another vehicle (F350), I guess I have a FICM going bad.

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I went over all the codes in the SC.....here are the final numbers:

With key on (no crank)
FMP: 48
FLP: 11
FVP: 11
VLT: 11.3

Cranked up (running):
FMP: 35 to 39.5
FLP: 13 to 13.5
FVP: 13.5
VLT: 13.5

This all done while idling in drive way.

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If you have injector stiction, changing to 5W-40 Syn will not IMMEDIATELY cure romp.

It needs to be used for a couple weeks and possibly run some RevX or Hot Shots Secret to clean the built up varnish out of the injector spools.
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Well, your FICM is bad. You might or might not have other issues. The latest ECU flash from Ford will make it start quite well if nothing else is broken. Since the FICM is bad and you are still driving it, you may get to change out the injectors as well. Glow plugs will throw a code and light the CEL.

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If you have injector stiction, changing to 5W-40 Syn will not IMMEDIATELY cure romp.

It needs to be used for a couple weeks and possibly run some RevX or Hot Shots Secret to clean the built up varnish out of the injector spools.
Got it. Thanks. I plan to keep it in there.....
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Well, your FICM is bad. You might or might not have other issues. The latest ECU flash from Ford will make it start quite well if nothing else is broken. Since the FICM is bad and you are still driving it, you may get to change out the injectors as well. Glow plugs will throw a code and light the CEL.

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Thanks for information. Got it parked now. Plan on taking to Ford this week.

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Sending the FICM to Ed at FICMrepair would be a better option than Ford.
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How many quarts did you pour into the motor??
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How many quarts did you pour into the motor??
Is this a trick question? ... got between 14 and 15 quarts in it (I think 14.7 to be exact).

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In the past people were overfilling the truck by using 15-16 quarts. This alone caused "romps" due to the lower crank slopping the oil as I recall.
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