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Old 05-02-2011, 10:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Scan Gauge II - Readings ok?

Ok, got my new toy...hooked up and went on first camping trip for 2011.
Camper weight about 11k lbs
Configured XGauges to read;
Dependent on grade...ambient temp 72
TFT (Trans Fluid Temp) 155 - 178
ECT (Eng Coolant Temp) 192 - 220
EOT (Eng Oil Temp) 198 - 239
BST (Boost psi) 0 - 22...then tilts with bogus -values
These seem normal?...
Side story, on way home pulling really steep grade, on throttle heavy...there was a loud "bang" followed by no power and no boost, yet no turbo whine like before when CAC boot at turbo blew off. Struggled up grade at 15mph into rest stop. Popped hood latch, got out, search reveled final hose connection to intake pipe off. Turn to wife with comment "need socket wrench" walk to curb side door to open door and turn off truck... Uh, Oh...its locked and gazing to other three they are too. No problem ask wife standing next to me, do you have extra key? Resp. yes, ahhh, good and where are they? Resp. is in truck right there...oh, crap! So...anyone have a used rear center slider window I can purchase cheap? Yup, I'll be cleaning up those glass chard's for a long time. Moral of story, roll down window before exiting truck with it idling to cool down.
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Sounds like me and my wife! LOL
Heres a hint to help with the boots blowing off. Use the wifes nail polish remover to really clean the tube that it blew off of, then grab her hair spray and spray the end of the tube. Let that dry for a minute or so, then reinstall your boot.
That will hold it, believe it or not.
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TFT (Trans Fluid Temp) 155 - 178
ECT (Eng Coolant Temp) 192 - 220
EOT (Eng Oil Temp) 198 - 239
BST (Boost psi) 0 - 22
TFT looks great
ECT is as expected
EOT hmmm, that depends, more in a second
Boost is as expected as well

The real test here is reading the ECT and EOT at the same time and recording the delta. These readings can help prevent serious damage from a failed EGR cooler/oil cooler combo. They fail together, oil cooler takes out the EGR cooler.
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I'd be more interested in seeing ECT vs. EOT numbers without the trailer. Take it out on the open road for 15-20 minutes at pretty steady speeds (60-70) and see what the delta is. Should be 15* or less.

That ScanGaugeII is a neat little tool, ain't it? I have the programming for about 70 different values (Ford PID's) you can watch with it. Let me know if you're interested.
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Ok, got my new toy...hooked up and went on first camping trip for 2011.
Camper weight about 11k lbs
Configured XGauges to read;
Dependent on grade...ambient temp 72
TFT (Trans Fluid Temp) 155 - 178
ECT (Eng Coolant Temp) 192 - 220
EOT (Eng Oil Temp) 198 - 239
BST (Boost psi) 0 - 22...then tilts with bogus -values
These seem normal?...
Ive been running the same #'s towing a 5er. I also see a 16* -20* spread on my ECT and EOT at 65mph for 30 mile flat land runs. Dealer says Im fine...... I have no wrench lights or CEL lights and the truck pulls like a raped ape.
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ex_monty & dieselmac...agree I do need to run 15min solo to get ECT-EOT delta. I can say towing "suggests" I'm good as while towing that 11k trailer on a long flat run the delta was around 15 degrees and when under hard pulls with my foot into about 3/4 throttle it would go to about 19 degrees. I've downloaded the pdf with the Xgauge code listing and recently found on a scan gauge forum an alternate Xgauge for extended range boost labeled as psi. I tried to get the truck to go over 22 psi but found solo that means I need to find a really aggressive grade 20.7 psi and I'm running out of road 70mph and climbing! I don't need to drive that fast. I'm going to use the wife's make-up supplies to reseat that hose. Thanks.
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I'd be more interested in seeing ECT vs. EOT numbers without the trailer. Take it out on the open road for 15-20 minutes at pretty steady speeds (60-70) and see what the delta is. Should be 15* or less.

That ScanGaugeII is a neat little tool, ain't it? I have the programming for about 70 different values (Ford PID's) you can watch with it. Let me know if you're interested.
I'm interested. PM sent. Thanks.
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Numbers look great! WHAT I want to see is the Youtube Video of you smashing your window My wife would have given me the I told you so all the way home

THAT is the specific reason I love keyless entry.
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Do you have the alternate code for the boost. Mine goes wacky after 20-21 also.

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My SG2 shows negative boost also. I believe you need a mechanical boost gauge if you really need to monitor your boost pressure.
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:21 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I have yet to validate the comment that it has extended range but this is what I've set one of the spare memory locations;
MAP is a standard gauge - but this XGauge is actually better than the standard one. It has a larger range which was needed because the standard gauge tops out around 37 psi absolute (about 22 lbs of boost), which diesels have no problem doing. This one should read well beyond 22lbs of boost.

Manifold Absolute Pressure
TXD: 07E0221440
RXF: 046285140640
RXD: 3010
MTH: 012203200000
NAM: PSI

With a little tweaking you can adjust this to read boost as you said.

To do this, just plug in the MAP code - get a reading from it with the key in the on position but the engine off, then based on the reading changed the last 4 digits of the MTH to whatever corresponds to your reading on this table

14.0 -- FF74
14.1 -- FF73
14.2 -- FF72
14.3 -- FF71
14.4 -- FF70
14.5 -- FF6F
14.6 -- FF6E
14.7 -- FF6D
14.8 -- FF6C
14.9 -- FF6B
15.0 -- FF6A

So, for example if you got a reading of 14.5 PSI with key on engine off you'd change the MTH to 01220320FF6F and the reading should read 0.0 with key on engine off and would then show how many lbs of boost you were at when the vehicle is running.
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Can't the scan gauge unit read the MGP (Manifold Gauge Pressure)? Or, is that not a PID available on the 6.0?

I ask because on the 6.4 the MGP PID reads actual corrected boost. I have to admit though, this is on a DD, not a Scan Gauge.
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I'm driving an 03, I think the MGP came later...so for us we have to use the MAP and convert it to boost as described in my previous post.
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Thankfully, atmospheric pressure doesn't change enough to warrant "recalibration" from sea level to say, 7000 feet. IIRC, it's about 3.3PSI difference.
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I have a 04 F350 93k towing 14.5k. The oil cooler has been changed. My ECT/EOT delta is 12 to 18 during all towing conditions. My trans has never gone over 185.
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